New Rush Slipons - Exhaust Leak - Help
I'm thinking maybe that copper goup will make that project alot more difficult to do....something to think about.....
Followup tomorrow . . .
It's tomorrow.
So I started it up today and there is still a very slight exhaust leak. Like babies breath, but it's there. Am I going to have problem with this leak? And now that I have the sealer in there, how hard are these going to be to take off if I need to do this again?
Last edited by tonygret; Nov 21, 2009 at 10:04 AM.
So I started it up today and there is still a very slight exhaust leak. Like babies breath, but it's there. Am I going to have problem with this leak? And now that I have the sealer in there, how hard are these going to be to take off if I need to do this again?
My Rush mufflers fit real loose over the header pipes; the inside diameter of the mufflers was quite a bit bigger than the outside diameter of the pipes. Make sure your band clamps are only over the slots in the muffler inlets, no part of the clamp should be over the solid part of the muffler inlet. You may have to slide the band clamps toward the right (front of the bike) far enough so there is some slot visible on the left (rear of bike) side of the clamps. If you try to tighten the band clamps over the solid part, you won't compress the muffler inlet and you won't get a good seal. You might even lose your mufflers.
Anti-seize on the band clamp bolts is a good idea. They tend to gall if you repeatedly loosen and tighten them.
As far as it coming off, well, haven't tried it personally but that's why I mentioned a light film because it can't be any more difficult than trying to get them suckers that are rusted/welded on there off, at least the sealant won't rust.
One other thing, if you wanted to redo it, I would have (and did myself)
1. Loosen clamp bolts and bracket bolts...
2. I actually removed heat shields and headpipes to put in new gaskets but more importantly wanted to verify torque at exhaust ports were torqued to spec.
3. After torquing exhaut port nuts, slight film of permatex appied to slip on flange, then put slip ons on and wiggled them around to a nice neutral position.
4. Applied a thin film of antiseize to band clamp bolts,halfmoons, and then loosely installed clamps on bolth slip ons and loosely installed connecting bracket and bolts loosely.
5. While tightening up both upper and lower slip on band clamps, verified 1/4 inch gap minimum between both slip ons.
6. Tightened down slip on band clamps, with some meat behind it, I torqued upper exhaust port nuts but no I don't torque band clamps, just good and tight.
7. Tried to move and pull on slip ons to make sure they can't rotate or pull off at this point. This is with the bracket bolts loose because the bracket bolts aren't there to keep the slip ons tight on the head pipe, I believe the bracket bolts are more for keeping the two mufflers together and they each give each other some support plus if you have the bracket bolts on right you should be able to maintain the 1/8 to 1/4 inch gap between the two slip ons.
8. Now I would tighten down bracket bolts
9. Let sit over night to dry, if you fire up immediately after, you defeat the purpose of the sealant by blowing it out.
One other thing, after a hundred miles, I rechecked my torque on my exhaust port nuts and made sure band clamp bolts were still good and tight.
Last edited by cactusred; Nov 21, 2009 at 01:39 PM. Reason: forgot something
HD says the clamps are use once and throw away. They stretch and the second (or third) time you try to reuse them they will tighten all the way down but will not be snug/tight around the slip-on.
8 bux from HD - I keep an extra in the tool box.
George
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
On another note, there is no decel poping from the new mufflers and I don't hear any strange noise that can be attributed to a leak. The Rush 1.75's are exactly what I was looking for. I had some V&H on my 06 ultra and it was so loud it bothered me on long rides. I think this is a perfect trade off of between "deafining" and "stock".
Last edited by tonygret; Nov 21, 2009 at 05:21 PM.
You shouldn't have to cake that permatex in there either, I just did a thin film and it's rock solid.
Hope that helps some.
Regarding the exhaust, you shouldn't need sealant of any kind. Reusing the exhaust clamps at the low mileage you have should be fine. Make sure everything is lined up, make sure that the mufflers are all the way on and seated, and that the clamps are positioned correctly and tightened to specification. There should be no leaks.






