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Old Jul 3, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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An update: I have read many post with opinions regarding break in procedures. I just wanted to take it easy for a little while. But after rereading "opinions" and advice given here, at 225 miles I HAMMERED the throttle and held on for dear life. I knew it would happen! I can't stay out of now. This setup is perfect for me with the power coming on later in the rpm range. Easy throttle feels comparable to the 96", but when the cams come alive, it's a beast. 0-100mph is instant, you just have to be ready to change gears quick as it quickly hits the rev limiter in 1st and 2nd gear. 80 mph in 6th gear, grab a hand full of throttle and well over 100mph is practically immediate. I have Indy built drag pipes on it and they ROAR!

I hate to admit it because I know a lot of folks here will flame me for this, but I am riding it "like I stole it"!! I just can't get enough.

I will try to post dyno results as soon as I can get it in the shop, however I will be out of commission for a few weeks (having surgery on 8 July). So it looks like about a month before I will get it on a dyno with tune. It is running a little fat at the moment, so I think there are a few more ponies to be had with the right tune.

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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Timbob,

I'd like to know more about your build, as it's really close to what I want to do with mine. What kind of head work did you have done? I'm thinking of having Big Boyz do my heads. Why did you choose the 585 cams? I've seen so many people on here do the Andrews 54H. Do you change your push rods? clutch springs? Did you install compression releases?
 
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Shizims
Timbob,

I'd like to know more about your build, as it's really close to what I want to do with mine. What kind of head work did you have done? I'm thinking of having Big Boyz do my heads. Why did you choose the 585 cams? I've seen so many people on here do the Andrews 54H. Do you change your push rods? clutch springs? Did you install compression releases?

Here is how the engine is built and why I chose the particular parts. First let me say this is my 1st Harley and I fell in love with from the moment I frst rode it! The stage 1 TC96"/6 speed in a Dyna SB is a fantastic combo, I just wanted it a little faster (and something that not everyone else has). Also I'm not a mechanic so the technical jargon I use may not be the correct term.

Head work done by Indy that performed the rest of the build. Nothing extensive. A basic "port and polish" to help intake and exhaust "breathe" easier. Why this route: I respect my Indies knowledge to perform this at a great price. I don't have the $$$ to have "professional" headwork at the moment! After riding it, I'm not sure I need anymore!

S&S 106" BB kit: Reputable company and $$$. Easy install for Indy (Bolt on) so more $$$ saved. Also the largest we could go without splitting the cases and again more $$$.

585C cams: I may be wrong but I believe Andrews grinds the cams for S&S. It really doesn't matter to me. Spoke with Indy numerous times about cam choices, as I like to ride further to the right in rpms and I weigh about 150lb soaking wet. I don't need a boatload of torque (bagger cam) down low, combined with my riding style high lift/long duration cams would give me what I wanted! Indy and I spoke with S&S numerous times about cams choices and they were very helpful and recommended this cam. These are NOT compression release cams, however I have not had any problems starting it. I believe S&S states on their site 10.2/1 compression using "stock" heads. I can neither confirm or deny this.

These cams really "talk' with the drag pipes. Very little throttle produces very little noise, but 1/2 throttle and more its crazy! Around town it will NOT lug and chug. It likes the rpms, and I knew this when I was researching cams. Freeway or back country roads: it blasts, no other way to put it.

Stock pushrods: Again Indy recommendation and $$$

Stock clutch: Time wil tell. It will light up the rear so easy I'm more worried about tire life.

Hope this helps. If not, gimme a hollar!
 
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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I have a 106 kit and hillside heads sitting on the shelf waiting for me to get off my ***.
I already have 94 hp 101tq w/ cams.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I have a 106 kit and hillside heads sitting on the shelf waiting for me to get off my ***.
I already have 94 hp 101tq w/ cams.
Spence
Damn...you got that with just cams and the 4* advance? I got a lil less with tw6 and no advance gear as seen in my sig. Once I get the (replacement) gear I may install it. Long story...
 
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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happy with my bob woods tw6 more power than i need it did put a smile on my face
 
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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Spend thousands on a rebuild..ride it 25 miles then hammer it...great advice there
 
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sumpnut
Spend thousands on a rebuild..ride it 25 miles then hammer it...great advice there
Actually he had 225 miles on it before he "hammered" it. It only takes a few miles to seat the rings, after that there's nothing stopping you from riding it the way you would normally.
 
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Originally Posted by TimBob
An update: I have read many post with opinions regarding break in procedures. I just wanted to take it easy for a little while. But after rereading "opinions" and advice given here, at 225 miles I HAMMERED the throttle and held on for dear life. I knew it would happen! I can't stay out of now. This setup is perfect for me with the power coming on later in the rpm range. Easy throttle feels comparable to the 96", but when the cams come alive, it's a beast. 0-100mph is instant, you just have to be ready to change gears quick as it quickly hits the rev limiter in 1st and 2nd gear. 80 mph in 6th gear, grab a hand full of throttle and well over 100mph is practically immediate. I have Indy built drag pipes on it and they ROAR!

I hate to admit it because I know a lot of folks here will flame me for this, but I am riding it "like I stole it"!! I just can't get enough.

I will try to post dyno results as soon as I can get it in the shop, however I will be out of commission for a few weeks (having surgery on 8 July). So it looks like about a month before I will get it on a dyno with tune. It is running a little fat at the moment, so I think there are a few more ponies to be had with the right tune.

Tim
Hope for you the best results and easy recovery.
Good on ya' for getting that beast BROKE-IN Early! Do like the motoman said.... I have on many new, and greatly modified engines... both car, truck, boat and motorcycle. Never abused them,but accelerated hard (ie, NO max RPM) and never maintained a constant speed for more than a couple of minutes until well broken in.
I never had a problem with any eingine since I began breaking in hard in the early 70's.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tab69pr
breaking in has always been a controversial topic, check out this site. www.mototuneusa.com.... let us know what numbers you get with the 106!
Dang, that site gave me even more incentive to build up my bike. I didn't think I could live with a 1000 mile break-in anyway. What a boring wait that would be. Good info, just what I wanted to hear!
 
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