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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by plumbertom
The only thing I'll say about that is if the problem goes away how wil you ever know if it was simply an adjustment that was needed.
You'll forever be tied to Harley Davidson primary fluid when there may be a better product.
Remember that H-D does not have your best interest in mind when they market products for maintenance.
It would far better for them if their primary fluid does nothing to extend the life of your drive components. After all they are in the business of selling you replacements and nothing they like better than people that believe that H-D brand is the only type of replacement anything to use.
your right, but (and this is really going out on a wire) what if the oil had degraded the clutch material enough that it now needed adjustment.

and frankly i dont think anybody has MY best interests in mind when marketing and trying to sell me stuff, Harley or any one else.

but, in this case we NEED a control, so going back to the factory fluid is the best thing to do. Im all for putting the best stuff in my bike just like the next guy, but the best engine oil might not be the end all be all for the rest of the bike.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by futureratbike
2.5 quarts of oil in the engine? It should take a whole 3 quarts.
Negatory. Not on Dynas. They're all different and most of them take little (if any) more than 2.5 quarts. If you have a Dyna and do your own oil changes?

Word to the wise. Easier to add than remove.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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I took the bike for a quick ride and all seems to be good. I still need to adjust the clutch lever a little. When it is adjusted per the manual it lets out pretty close to the top (released). I like mine to start to catch right in the middle.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mentor70
your right, but (and this is really going out on a wire) what if the oil had degraded the clutch material enough that it now needed adjustment.

and frankly i dont think anybody has MY best interests in mind when marketing and trying to sell me stuff, Harley or any one else.

but, in this case we NEED a control, so going back to the factory fluid is the best thing to do. Im all for putting the best stuff in my bike just like the next guy, but the best engine oil might not be the end all be all for the rest of the bike.
I have tried many different types of oil in my primary and found that the HD F+ had the least amount of shavings on the drain plug. This tells me that the HD oil is doing a better job.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Grendel4
Negatory. Not on Dynas. They're all different and most of them take little (if any) more than 2.5 quarts. If you have a Dyna and do your own oil changes?
Yes they do take more than 2.5 quarts (at least the 2009's and newer do), and yes, I've always done my own work on my bikes. 2.5 sit in the pan and the other half is in the filter. Not only does the owners manual say, the service manual says it as do the 3 tech's I know (one's an indie and two work at a local dealership).

Word to the wise. Easier to add than remove.[/quote]

Easier to scratch up cylinder walls and wear rings and warp heads (especially if one lives and rides where it gets crazy hot in the summer, like I did with my '72 ironhead in Las Vegas) than have the correct amount already in there, that's what that mentality will get someone. Air-cooled motors need that oil or they don't last long.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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Oil volume is way less critical than oil temperature and thermal stability. If you can keep it cool enough, you could run a quart of oil. The extra oil is there to make sure there is always the minimum, and never less than the minimum, and to pick up heat from the internal parts and transfer it to the cases to radiate away. I would bet that the last few ounces don't make much of a difference.
Run synthetic in the engine and gearbox. I was convinced fifteen years ago when I was riding an '85 BMW K100RS. I'll tell the story if anyone is interested. If your oil temp. gets up to dangerous levels, install an oil radiator. If there is still any doubt, or if you get stuck in traffic often, forced air cooling on the engine and radiator is the final resort. I guess you could also fit an auxiliary oil tank someplace to increase volume and radiating surface area.
The lubricative qualities of the oil are vitally important in maintaining a continuous film of oil. Synthetics are far superior to mineral oils in this department.
I'd invest in an oil temperature guage. If you can rig up an alarm, so much the better. Same for the oil pressure guage. You probably won't be looking when the oil pump quits or the temp. ramps up past the safe zone. Ears work all the time.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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it barely takes 3 quarts, closer to 2.5

I too don't like when it grabs all the way out, the solution to that is in the clutch adjustment screw. they say 3/4 of a turn out. I do half a turn. some people like it to be all the way out so they can shift with a finger.
 
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