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I assume the rear tire is on the ground and the bike is not on a jack? My only guess would be something managed to get bound up while you had the engine jacked up in the front. I wouldn't go loosen the other mount bolts, just a guess but you might want to try either sitting on the bike and getting the rear suspension to work a little or even putting a little pressure on the rear of the trans with your jack. No clue if that would work or not, but that is all I have.
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I can't tell from the pics how you are lifting the bike. The bike really needs to be perpendicular to the floor with most of the weight on the wheels and the engine just supported enough to align the frame to mount holes. Are you lifting the bike by the frame and supporting the engine with a separate jack? If so, is your lift clearing the clutch cable and not accidentally lifting the engine slightly?
Shim the gap and don't worry if the heim joint is perpendicular to the center line of the bike, it is just there to limit the engine movement.
CB
Shim the gap and don't worry if the heim joint is perpendicular to the center line of the bike, it is just there to limit the engine movement.
CB
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I assume the rear tire is on the ground and the bike is not on a jack? My only guess would be something managed to get bound up while you had the engine jacked up in the front. I wouldn't go loosen the other mount bolts, just a guess but you might want to try either sitting on the bike and getting the rear suspension to work a little or even putting a little pressure on the rear of the trans with your jack. No clue if that would work or not, but that is all I have.
I can't tell from the pics how you are lifting the bike. The bike really needs to be perpendicular to the floor with most of the weight on the wheels and the engine just supported enough to align the frame to mount holes. Are you lifting the bike by the frame and supporting the engine with a separate jack? If so, is your lift clearing the clutch cable and not accidentally lifting the engine slightly?
Shim the gap and don't worry if the heim joint is perpendicular to the center line of the bike, it is just there to limit the engine movement.
CB
Shim the gap and don't worry if the heim joint is perpendicular to the center line of the bike, it is just there to limit the engine movement.
CB
I installed everything to get some pics:
Notice the TT motor mount bracket is how far behind the frame bracket:
The stabilizer is not parallel:
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I would disconnect the heim joints front and rear, loosen all 4 bolts at both mounts, run engine for few seconds, tighten the front mount to frame bolts and then mount to case bolts, How does it sit now, better? Tighten the rear mount to frame bolts and then mount to case bolts. How it sit now? Reconnect the heim joints. See how it runs/rides. If anything, I would shim the rear mount between the frame and mount if it is pulling the engine back after tightening the rear mount
CB
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From the pic it does not look like you shimmed the front mount so it is pulling the crap out of it. I know it is a pain in the ***, but I would at least loosen all 4 bolts on the rear mount, start it up and see if it relaxes the front and if there is a gap at the rear, shim that. Maybe you inadvertently introduced a problem, sometimes you just have to start over and remove all the variables. I wish I lived near you, I would come over and do it for you, just because I know your tired of working on it. Something just does not look right.
CB
From the pic it does not look like you shimmed the front mount so it is pulling the crap out of it. I know it is a pain in the ***, but I would at least loosen all 4 bolts on the rear mount, start it up and see if it relaxes the front and if there is a gap at the rear, shim that. Maybe you inadvertently introduced a problem, sometimes you just have to start over and remove all the variables. I wish I lived near you, I would come over and do it for you, just because I know your tired of working on it. Something just does not look right.
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Yeah, I loosened all the bolts and ran the engine a couple of times.
I appreciate the thought. I don't expect anyone to do anything on my ride. I'll either figure it out or I'll find a competent indy. I do know one that is a TT dealer near charlotte. Downside is that it's about a 90min ride to get there.
I don't know if I need to loosen the top mounts too.....been thinking about it. That'll probably mean removing the seat, to get to the rear tank mount...to lift the tank a bit to get in there to loosen the top motor mounts.
I just don't freakin know. I'm capable enough to tear into the motor and replace cams, etc but I'm not capable enough to install a TT. Make sense? lol
I appreciate the thought. I don't expect anyone to do anything on my ride. I'll either figure it out or I'll find a competent indy. I do know one that is a TT dealer near charlotte. Downside is that it's about a 90min ride to get there.
I don't know if I need to loosen the top mounts too.....been thinking about it. That'll probably mean removing the seat, to get to the rear tank mount...to lift the tank a bit to get in there to loosen the top motor mounts.
I just don't freakin know. I'm capable enough to tear into the motor and replace cams, etc but I'm not capable enough to install a TT. Make sense? lol
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Yeah, I loosened all the bolts and ran the engine a couple of times.
I appreciate the thought. I don't expect anyone to do anything on my ride. I'll either figure it out or I'll find a competent indy. I do know one that is a TT dealer near charlotte. Downside is that it's about a 90min ride to get there.
I don't know if I need to loosen the top mounts too.....been thinking about it. That'll probably mean removing the seat, to get to the rear tank mount...to lift the tank a bit to get in there to loosen the top motor mounts.
I just don't freakin know. I'm capable enough to tear into the motor and replace cams, etc but I'm not capable enough to install a TT. Make sense? lol
I appreciate the thought. I don't expect anyone to do anything on my ride. I'll either figure it out or I'll find a competent indy. I do know one that is a TT dealer near charlotte. Downside is that it's about a 90min ride to get there.
I don't know if I need to loosen the top mounts too.....been thinking about it. That'll probably mean removing the seat, to get to the rear tank mount...to lift the tank a bit to get in there to loosen the top motor mounts.
I just don't freakin know. I'm capable enough to tear into the motor and replace cams, etc but I'm not capable enough to install a TT. Make sense? lol
CB
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unbolt the isolator from the frame
run the engine side bolts through the isolator
whatever space is between isolator and frame is your shim thickness
shim
probably need slightly longer bolts now
deal with truetrack separately
one thing at a time...........
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unbolt the isolator from the frame
run the engine side bolts through the isolator
whatever space is between isolator and frame is your shim thickness
shim
probably need slightly longer bolts now
deal with truetrack separately
one thing at a time...........
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