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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 10:38 PM
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I don't mean to thread jack but how many pieces of heated gear is to many for a 97 dyna charging system? A lot of good info on here and I've been thinking of getting some, but I think I'm going to be limited to 2 maybe 3 pieces and want to choose wisely.
I think your system would be similar to mine; a relativly low output single phase alternator...the higher output three phase alternator didn't come until '03 I believe; needed to power the mass of electronics associated with fuel injection. On my '01 (carbed) I use the vest only, and also have an LED headlight to lessen the draw and get my battery back up after starting my 103; this year I'll be running a lithium battery, too...our systems also don't put out much at lower RPM...you might want to do some more homework ie talk to a well qualified tech or look up the specs on some aftermarket alternators...
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 05:08 AM
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Powerlet asked warm n safe to manufacture their products for them. And powerlet is just using warm n safes new design which was warm n safe gen 4 products. First gear just has warm n safe relable their products for them also and used warm n safes gen 3 models. However now first gear will be using the gen 4 as well. I feel like Im talking about glocks lol. Bottom line in the end they are all good. Some people swear by gerbing, others swear by first gear/powerlet/warm n safe. If you want a wireless controller that is easier to operate you go with first gear/warm n safe. First gear will warranty stuff out more often because they are owned by tucker rocky and its easier for a dealer to work with a bigger company like tucker than deal direct with warm n safe even though warm n safe gives bigger margins if you go dealer direct. The pants liners and jacket liners are thinner and more comfortable on first gear than gerbing. The gerbin pant liners are bulky whereas the first gear liners are like a pair of long thermals and thin. First gear socks have a nice comfortable velcro piece that wraps around the calf so the sock doesnt ride down the way a gerbing sock does. And first gear offers a more protective glove and if you want a glove liner you cant even feel the wires in that liner
Maybe that's all true but, again, compare the features. The Powerlet is different. For one thing it has a dual wattage capability, 105w or 60 watt. You just change a connector on the liner to have which ever wattage you want. Also, I am not sure the FG shell material is the same as the Powerlet. Maybe there is some product differentiation going on here.

Anyway, I am supremely satisfied with mine. I will, in the not too distant future, be making an epic trip close to the Arctic Circle and the Powerlet will be in my pack !

Their glove liners are hands down superior to gerbings (pun intended).
 

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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 05:51 AM
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Gerbings liner,gloves and dual controller..Put my leather jacket over and warm as toast..Add one of our controller mounts so you can see the *****..

I really like this setup, however I notice that there isn't a setup that I can securely mount to my Street Bob. I know that you offer a version with earth magnets, but I would like something that is held via the screws on the dash.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ian03xl
I don't mean to thread jack but how many pieces of heated gear is to many for a 97 Dyna charging system? A lot of good info on here and I've been thinking of getting some, but I think I'm going to be limited to 2 maybe 3 pieces and want to choose wisely.
I have a '96 and I was hoping some one would answer your question, as I wonder as well. Its my understanding our late model Evo Dyna's come with a 32 amp charging system. My system blew last year and I replaced it with a comparable 32 amp system, but I guess I should have upgraded to the 38, when I had the chance. I have checked my system with both my gloves and my wifes gloves plugged in. As long as my bike is above idle, it is charging, so I am perfectly confident that only two pieces will not overtax the system, unless you have some crazy accessories like the bagger guys. I am even able to run both gloves and two 55W (H3 bulb) driving lights "IF" I am well above idle.

As a general rule I plug my bike into a battery tender when I get home. If I plug the bike in and the light goes green pretty quick, I know my system has been working and has not been discharging.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 11:17 AM
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All good advice so far. I'd add that the Tourmaster stuff is cheap, but the vest itself is reliable, it is the controller that is a POS- I've had the vest for 5 years, Tourmaster has replaced the controller twice at no charge. Kicks out the heat better than the Old Lady's Gerbing liner, and Warm&Safe makes a controller adapter for it. And if yer worried about electrical capacity on your bike, the vest only draws 45 watts- yeah yer arms get cold, but keep the core warm and you can be smiling down into the 20's- provided you have something for yer hands ( stay away from the Tourmaster gloves, don't put out much heat).
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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I have a '96 and I was hoping some one would answer your question, as I wonder as well. Its my understanding our late model Evo Dyna's come with a 32 amp charging system. My system blew last year and I replaced it with a comparable 32 amp system, but I guess I should have upgraded to the 38, when I had the chance. I have checked my system with both my gloves and my wifes gloves plugged in. As long as my bike is above idle, it is charging, so I am perfectly confident that only two pieces will not overtax the system, unless you have some crazy accessories like the bagger guys. I am even able to run both gloves and two 55W (H3 bulb) driving lights "IF" I am well above idle.

As a general rule I plug my bike into a battery tender when I get home. If I plug the bike in and the light goes green pretty quick, I know my system has been working and has not been discharging.
Ya i think your right on with 2 and an upgraded charging system is I think pretty expensive when mine works fine.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Oh, you shouldnt have any trouble powering a liner, gloves and even a pair of pants with any modern-day H-D.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 01:14 PM
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I really like this setup, however I notice that there isn't a setup that I can securely mount to my Street Bob. I know that you offer a version with earth magnets, but I would like something that is held via the screws on the dash.
We make a panel like this as well..Keep in mind if you make us a template of what you would like if you need the holes in a different location,it is not a problem..
 
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Oh, you shouldnt have any trouble powering a liner, gloves and even a pair of pants with any modern-day H-D.
On a modern one yes, but for example my 97 has a 360 watt generator and a 2005 dyna has a 540 watt genertor. The electronics on to power the carbed bikes alone require around 275 watts of that 360 and 540. Now since you don't typically want to use much more than 75%-80% of max capacity that leaves almost nothing to power heated gear. Some of the heated garments can easily use up 45 watts individually so 1-2 can easily over come the output of my stator. The 2005 could easily handle 3-4 no problem as it has nearly 200 watts more than my 97. The newer fi bikes have even better charging systems yet but I'm not going to get into that. The reason I asked is because I wanted to know if anyone had tried it before I spent a bunch of money on gear.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by ian03xl
On a modern one yes, but for example my 97 has a 360 watt generator and a 2005 dyna has a 540 watt genertor. The electronics on to power the carbed bikes alone require around 275 watts of that 360 and 540. Now since you don't typically want to use much more than 75%-80% of max capacity that leaves almost nothing to power heated gear. Some of the heated garments can easily use up 45 watts individually so 1-2 can easily over come the output of my stator. The 2005 could easily handle 3-4 no problem as it has nearly 200 watts more than my 97. The newer fi bikes have even better charging systems yet but I'm not going to get into that. The reason I asked is because I wanted to know if anyone had tried it before I spent a bunch of money on gear.
A typical jacket liner's draw is between 65 and 95 watts on high, vests usually around 45, gloves draw between 25 to 30 watts on average. Powerlet has a little tutorial page on calculating your bikes electrical capacity http://www.powerlet.com/learningCenter/excessCapacity
 
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