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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 12:29 AM
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u haven't tried them shut up! I've used both iridium and platinum plugs as alternatives in all my cars and bikes for years.They last longer,idles smoother,and has a crispier throttle response in most applications.To me that's worth the extra coin.Nuff said.
Believe me, I've tried most of them and I can assure you they make zero difference on a Harley. You will also not find any independent testing that shows any difference whatsoever on a dyno.

In fact, you have to be careful with modern Harleys (07+) because they have an anti-knock system that can be disabled by non-stock plugs.

So you can spend a lot of money on zero improvement and damage you engine in the bargain. Yup, money well spent. Not.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxster
Believe me, I've tried most of them and I can assure you they make zero difference on a Harley. You will also not find any independent testing that shows any difference whatsoever on a dyno.

In fact, you have to be careful with modern Harleys (07+) because they have an anti-knock system that can be disabled by non-stock plugs.

So you can spend a lot of money on zero improvement and damage you engine in the bargain. Yup, money well spent. Not.
The Iridiums are fine and I haven't had any issues with engine codes due to said "resistance". Run the iridiums for a few months and go back to the stock HD plugs and you will feel the biggest difference on cold starts. I went back to stock just to try it and the bike coughed, sputtered and ran rough until the bike was warmed up 10 miles down the road. That night I put the iridiums back in, 10k miles later I'm still happy and plugs look fine and no engine codes.

The NGK's are $1 more per plug then the stock HD's and $2 less then the HD platinums. Those that are worried about the money being wasted on iridiums, then why are you guys spending $6 on a $2 champion plug? Gotta have the Harley stamp??

In the end run what you want, but you aren't going to ruin anything with the newer bikes.
 

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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 02:10 AM
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 03:58 AM
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The Iridiums are fine and I haven't had any issues with engine codes due to said "resistance".
Its not about resistance. The anti-knock system works by detecting the ions generated during the spark event. There are more ions generated during knock.

If the spark is not the same as that generated with stock plugs then you just don't know what the ECU is going to measure. It might detect extra ions and retard the ignition more often than necessary or it might just not work at all any more and so you won't have this engine-life-extending feature.

Worth it for some dubious benefit of expensive plugs? Not to me.

I went back to stock just to try it and the bike coughed, sputtered and ran rough until the bike was warmed up 10 miles down the road.
If it it ran like that then you either have a fault with the bike or the stock plugs were knackered.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxster
Its not about resistance. The anti-knock system works by detecting the ions generated during the spark event. There are more ions generated during knock.

If the spark is not the same as that generated with stock plugs then you just don't know what the ECU is going to measure. It might detect extra ions and retard the ignition more often than necessary or it might just not work at all any more and so you won't have this engine-life-extending feature.

Worth it for some dubious benefit of expensive plugs? Not to me.


If it it ran like that then you either have a fault with the bike or the stock plugs were knackered.
Yea I know it does the ION sensing I just jumped to what most of these threads think the problem is.

IMO most people are going rebuild it or something else is going to fail before anything goes wrong from a spark plug. Now if you are throwing codes and it runs like crap, I totally understand. But spark plugs are definitely the least of our worries.

When my bike was doing that crap going back to stock plugs was pre exhaust, intake and ECM. It wasn't as bad as it probably read on here, but it was noticeable. It definitely needed to warm up longer. With the iridiums I just fire off and go and it runs the same as if it were warmed up.
 

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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 09:49 AM
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My $.02 is we like to set up our Harleys the way we want them. The iridium plug is the latest technology and longest lasting. They should keep your bike in tune a bit longer than standard plugs. On some automobiles with plugs that are hard to get to I would want to be using the longest lasting plugs available. New plugs will start and run better than worn or fouled plugs. So changing your plugs often will help keep your bike in tune. As easy as it is to get to the plugs on a Harley I don't see the point in using anything other than standard plugs. That's just me and there's nothing wrong in someone using something differant that they believe is best on there bike.
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Who has the best deal on 'em? Anybody know? Thx
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It was a simple question meant to save me a little time finding a decent price without weeding thru a bunch of sites for a good deal on MY spark plug of choice.No need for all the b.s. that's what this site is for right? Sharing information,links etc.? And the whole "a spark is a spark" comments are total bullsh@t...if u haven't tried them shut up! I've used both iridium and platinum plugs as alternatives in all my cars and bikes for years.They last longer,idles smoother,and has a crispier throttle response in most applications.To me that's worth the extra coin.Nuff said.
That's the way it is supposed to be!

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Phat Performance has them for $7.50/ea.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by thedonthere
just use stock HD plugs...last time I bought a set they were like $8 ea....a spark is a spark.......don't get caught up in the snake oil business...JMHO
I put a pair of these in about every 5K. Never had one fail in last 3 Harleys, priced right, pick 'em up at my local dealer, get to see what's new. What's not to love? Any thing else is "snake oil" in my book.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by thedonthere
just use stock HD plugs...last time I bought a set they were like $8 ea....a spark is a spark.......don't get caught up in the snake oil business...JMHO
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I put a pair of these in about every 5K. Never had one fail in last 3 Harleys, priced right, pick 'em up at my local dealer, get to see what's new. What's not to love? Any thing else is "snake oil" in my book.

These are one-fourth the cost, and they don't have the snake oil logo on them:
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Old Sep 2, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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With Champion plugs you need to carefully set the gap. They come with the gap way too close for Harley specs. The Harley plugs come with the gap close to being in spec. The dealer close to me sells them for arround $4 a piece but the Champions work fine.
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