HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
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Road Master
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HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
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Here's what I heard from a dealership in the DC area this weekend plus other dealerships on my travel back to NC. This post has nothing to do with attitudes about the strike but with what the dealers are doing.
Once the strike began, the discounts that the dealer was offering stopped. Back to the originial MRSP. The dealer also said that once the current stock on the floors is sold, if the strike is still in place, there would be no new bikes to fill the void.
Another issue was that HD has began, this year, it's overseas dealerships and that beginning next year the stateside dealers would be strapped with a "Dealer Allotment" in order to supply the overseas dealers.
I'm not sure how this is going to play out or what the MOCO's policies are, but it sounds as if the plentiful supplies of Harleys is going to dwindle.
Post what you know or can find out.
Here's what I heard from a dealership in the DC area this weekend plus other dealerships on my travel back to NC. This post has nothing to do with attitudes about the strike but with what the dealers are doing.
Once the strike began, the discounts that the dealer was offering stopped. Back to the originial MRSP. The dealer also said that once the current stock on the floors is sold, if the strike is still in place, there would be no new bikes to fill the void.
Another issue was that HD has began, this year, it's overseas dealerships and that beginning next year the stateside dealers would be strapped with a "Dealer Allotment" in order to supply the overseas dealers.
I'm not sure how this is going to play out or what the MOCO's policies are, but it sounds as if the plentiful supplies of Harleys is going to dwindle.
Post what you know or can find out.
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RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
ORIGINAL: dlstanf2
Sorry for this Post but, Original Post Locked.
Here's what I heard from a dealership in the DC area this weekend plus other dealerships on my travel back to NC. This post has nothing to do with attitudes about the strike but with what the dealers are doing.
Once the strike began, the discounts that the dealer was offering stopped. Back to the originial MRSP. The dealer also said that once the current stock on the floors is sold, if the strike is still in place, there would be no new bikes to fill the void.
Another issue was that HD has began, this year, it's overseas dealerships and that beginning next year the stateside dealers would be strapped with a "Dealer Allotment" in order to supply the overseas dealers.
I'm not sure how this is going to play out or what the MOCO's policies are, but it sounds as if the plentiful supplies of Harleys is going to dwindle.
Post what you know or can find out.
Sorry for this Post but, Original Post Locked.
Here's what I heard from a dealership in the DC area this weekend plus other dealerships on my travel back to NC. This post has nothing to do with attitudes about the strike but with what the dealers are doing.
Once the strike began, the discounts that the dealer was offering stopped. Back to the originial MRSP. The dealer also said that once the current stock on the floors is sold, if the strike is still in place, there would be no new bikes to fill the void.
Another issue was that HD has began, this year, it's overseas dealerships and that beginning next year the stateside dealers would be strapped with a "Dealer Allotment" in order to supply the overseas dealers.
I'm not sure how this is going to play out or what the MOCO's policies are, but it sounds as if the plentiful supplies of Harleys is going to dwindle.
Post what you know or can find out.
HD is going to send the murdersickles to the part of the country - where they are moving.
There has always been a "Dealer Allotment".
There will always be as many scooters available on the showroom floor,
as the market will bear. Nature of the beast.
That is my two pennies.
mud
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RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
Local stealership has always had allotments. Funny thing...the sales guy always says you should buy the bike that's there right now, because they might not get more due to the allotment.
Road Warrior
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From: MA
RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
Got to agree with Mud -
I don't know jack about the situation - but I have to believe that the MOCO understands how much better off they are with a free flowing supply chain rather than allocation. I also have to believe that the union understands they are not going to get everything they want. We are living in an economy of auto plant closings, layoffs, cutbacks, etc.
MOCO and union workers will both suffer with a lengthy strike. Too many $$$$$ on the line - the bikes will get to where they will move but the consumer has certain expectations at this point. Radical pricing changes will turn buyers away and tip the whole situation on it's head. All parties involved understand that.
I don't know jack about the situation - but I have to believe that the MOCO understands how much better off they are with a free flowing supply chain rather than allocation. I also have to believe that the union understands they are not going to get everything they want. We are living in an economy of auto plant closings, layoffs, cutbacks, etc.
MOCO and union workers will both suffer with a lengthy strike. Too many $$$$$ on the line - the bikes will get to where they will move but the consumer has certain expectations at this point. Radical pricing changes will turn buyers away and tip the whole situation on it's head. All parties involved understand that.
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From: ACE Cafe, London, England.
RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
Surely, though this will only affect the Softail's and Tourer which are made at the York plant, or has the strike 'spilled' over to the other HD plants..?
The Sportster's, Dyna's and V-Rod's are made in the Kansas factory.
Looks like I got my timing just about right, as I know my bike has already arrived in the UK and is sitting in it's crate in the dealer's wharehouse...
The Sportster's, Dyna's and V-Rod's are made in the Kansas factory.
Looks like I got my timing just about right, as I know my bike has already arrived in the UK and is sitting in it's crate in the dealer's wharehouse...
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RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
ORIGINAL: glide05
Got to agree with Mud -
I don't know jack about the situation - but I have to believe that the MOCO understands how much better off they are with a free flowing supply chain rather than allocation. I also have to believe that the union understands they are not going to get everything they want. We are living in an economy of auto plant closings, layoffs, cutbacks, etc.
MOCO and union workers will both suffer with a lengthy strike. Too many $$$$$ on the line - the bikes will get to where they will move but the consumer has certain expectations at this point. Radical pricing changes will turn buyers away and tip the whole situation on it's head. All parties involved understand that.
Got to agree with Mud -
I don't know jack about the situation - but I have to believe that the MOCO understands how much better off they are with a free flowing supply chain rather than allocation. I also have to believe that the union understands they are not going to get everything they want. We are living in an economy of auto plant closings, layoffs, cutbacks, etc.
MOCO and union workers will both suffer with a lengthy strike. Too many $$$$$ on the line - the bikes will get to where they will move but the consumer has certain expectations at this point. Radical pricing changes will turn buyers away and tip the whole situation on it's head. All parties involved understand that.
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RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
ORIGINAL: dlstanf2
Another issue was that HD has began, this year, it's overseas dealerships and that beginning next year the stateside dealers would be strapped with a "Dealer Allotment" in order to supply the overseas dealers.
Another issue was that HD has began, this year, it's overseas dealerships and that beginning next year the stateside dealers would be strapped with a "Dealer Allotment" in order to supply the overseas dealers.
When I ordered my FXDC at the end of Nov last year, the quoted next production run of Overseas Spec for the Dyna wasn't until mid-Jan 07.
Here in the UK, HD dealers arn't very big and don't keep more than maybe a single model of each type (if at all) in dealer stock. Probably 80-90% or more of new sales are pre-order with a3-6+ month wait.
This does however keep used values quite high.
For example, before I ordered my FXDC, I looked at '05 Low Rider with a few mods (Stage 1 with pipes, solo seat, forwards etc) and with 2500 miles, and that was only just over ÂŁ1000 (about US$2k) below list for a new 07 Low Rider. And don't forget a new '07 Low over here is equivilent of about US$23k.
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From: MA
RE: HD Strike & Dealer Allotment Issues
ORIGINAL: voyager1
this thread was killed by the mods before ! now union talk is up and posting again. kill this thread please . riding bikes and union talk do not mix . i do not want to hear this crap .
ORIGINAL: glide05
Got to agree with Mud -
I don't know jack about the situation - but I have to believe that the MOCO understands how much better off they are with a free flowing supply chain rather than allocation. I also have to believe that the union understands they are not going to get everything they want. We are living in an economy of auto plant closings, layoffs, cutbacks, etc.
MOCO and union workers will both suffer with a lengthy strike. Too many $$$$$ on the line - the bikes will get to where they will move but the consumer has certain expectations at this point. Radical pricing changes will turn buyers away and tip the whole situation on it's head. All parties involved understand that.
Got to agree with Mud -
I don't know jack about the situation - but I have to believe that the MOCO understands how much better off they are with a free flowing supply chain rather than allocation. I also have to believe that the union understands they are not going to get everything they want. We are living in an economy of auto plant closings, layoffs, cutbacks, etc.
MOCO and union workers will both suffer with a lengthy strike. Too many $$$$$ on the line - the bikes will get to where they will move but the consumer has certain expectations at this point. Radical pricing changes will turn buyers away and tip the whole situation on it's head. All parties involved understand that.
I read a few of the posts in the other thread that you are referring to. You know what - "I didn't want to hear that crap" - you know what I did - I stopped reading that thread. The post count was going up - and I knew why, and I refrained from reading it - just as you can do here.
If you read my post - you will see that it is not "union talk" nor is it pro MOCO talk. It's just my opinion that even though some say there is still an allotment system, I think we all agree that its a much better situation for the buyer than it was several years back. This has set the buyer expectations at a certain price point and it may be difficult to change the buyer mentality quickly. If one day a bike is all of a sudden 1-2K more than it was the day before, I'd guess it's going to make potential buyers think twice.