New to the HD world - looking to get a Streetr Bob
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New to the HD world - looking to get a Street Bob
I went to a local HD dealer a few weeks back. I walked in essentially blind - not knowing anything about HDs. Salesmen were friendly and knowledgeably but as soon as they figured out I was ready to leave and think about all my newly obtained knowledge, I was passed on to another salesmen and eventually two managers. No biggie but they definitely wanted me to make a "spontaneous" purchase. I did get out with my wallet still in my pants but was later barraged with follow-up phone calls.
Then, about a week ago, I went to a different dealer - a little further away. It was a completely different experiences...I talked to ONE salesman and no Managers and at the end the salesman said: "do you want me to follow-up with you or do you want to follow-up with me". Suffice it to say, this was a much more comfortable experience. This dealer also said, "we are an MSRP dealer - the other guys (the first dealer I went to) are not....they don't list their prices on the bikes on the floor...pricing with them is game of mystery"
Anyone have a a similar experiences with this concept of an "MSRP dealer vs. a non-MSRP dealer"?
Second question - I mentioned to the second dealer's salesman that I was interested in the HD-1 customization program. I specifically mentioned I was interested in the Air-Intake upgrade to the Screaming' Eagle Heaver Breather. He said if I were to upgrade the Air-Intake I would need to get the bike re-tuned on a Dyno and get a new "map" installed on the bike's chip -about $800 - Yikes!. This makes NO sense to me. If I order a bike from the HD factory with an upgraded Air-Intake, why wouldn't the factory tune and map it properly coming out the factory door?
P.S. I posted here in the Dyno Forum because I'm interested in a Street Bob.
Then, about a week ago, I went to a different dealer - a little further away. It was a completely different experiences...I talked to ONE salesman and no Managers and at the end the salesman said: "do you want me to follow-up with you or do you want to follow-up with me". Suffice it to say, this was a much more comfortable experience. This dealer also said, "we are an MSRP dealer - the other guys (the first dealer I went to) are not....they don't list their prices on the bikes on the floor...pricing with them is game of mystery"
Anyone have a a similar experiences with this concept of an "MSRP dealer vs. a non-MSRP dealer"?
Second question - I mentioned to the second dealer's salesman that I was interested in the HD-1 customization program. I specifically mentioned I was interested in the Air-Intake upgrade to the Screaming' Eagle Heaver Breather. He said if I were to upgrade the Air-Intake I would need to get the bike re-tuned on a Dyno and get a new "map" installed on the bike's chip -about $800 - Yikes!. This makes NO sense to me. If I order a bike from the HD factory with an upgraded Air-Intake, why wouldn't the factory tune and map it properly coming out the factory door?
P.S. I posted here in the Dyno Forum because I'm interested in a Street Bob.
Last edited by GCM; May 28, 2013 at 01:02 PM. Reason: correct typo
From my understanding, a simple intake upgrade isnt typically done at the factory. Thats for more heavy customizing. When I asked the same thing a my dealer they gave pretty much the same answer. It just has to be done at the service department before delivery.
Best to just buy the parts on your own and install them and get your own tuner for the bike. Some can be inexpensive and easy, others are more in-depth and technical but you pay for that ability to optimize.
Best to just buy the parts on your own and install them and get your own tuner for the bike. Some can be inexpensive and easy, others are more in-depth and technical but you pay for that ability to optimize.
Man! Where to start.
First, welcome. The Street Bob is a great bike. I bought mine through the H-D1 process and I'm very happy with the bike.
As for the MSRP thing, every dealer is different. A lot of them sell at MSRP then provide incentives through dealer accessories, labor, etc. The H-D1 process is going to be MSRP anyway, so just accept that and ask for free accessories, labor or mods, or discount/free 500 mile service.
If you are going intake only, you don't have to get the tune. If you upgrade pipe and intake, you'll want the tune. The reason is that these bikes are tuned lean from the factory to meet EPA regulations. Just the intake alone won't cause too much extra leanness, but the addition of a pipe will. That said, the tune is a good idea but not required for just the intake.
Now, $800 is way way too much for a factory (flash type) tune. This shouldn't cost more Han $150 and even then it's not the most efficient use of your money.
For $800 you could buy the best tuner on the market (PowerVision), map the tune yourself (very easy), and still have the tuner for future use.
If you are looking for budget conscience tuning, you could buy the Screamin' Eagle SESPT for less than $300 and have the dealer download and install a decent map. You're going to get a lot of tuner advice in this thread. A lot of very knowledgeable people will chime in and it's mostly good advice. Do some research, then call a company called Fuel Moto for the best option. They are really good at what they do and support all of their tuners with downloadable maps.
Good luck with the purchase and share some pics when you get them.
First, welcome. The Street Bob is a great bike. I bought mine through the H-D1 process and I'm very happy with the bike.
As for the MSRP thing, every dealer is different. A lot of them sell at MSRP then provide incentives through dealer accessories, labor, etc. The H-D1 process is going to be MSRP anyway, so just accept that and ask for free accessories, labor or mods, or discount/free 500 mile service.
If you are going intake only, you don't have to get the tune. If you upgrade pipe and intake, you'll want the tune. The reason is that these bikes are tuned lean from the factory to meet EPA regulations. Just the intake alone won't cause too much extra leanness, but the addition of a pipe will. That said, the tune is a good idea but not required for just the intake.
Now, $800 is way way too much for a factory (flash type) tune. This shouldn't cost more Han $150 and even then it's not the most efficient use of your money.
For $800 you could buy the best tuner on the market (PowerVision), map the tune yourself (very easy), and still have the tuner for future use.
If you are looking for budget conscience tuning, you could buy the Screamin' Eagle SESPT for less than $300 and have the dealer download and install a decent map. You're going to get a lot of tuner advice in this thread. A lot of very knowledgeable people will chime in and it's mostly good advice. Do some research, then call a company called Fuel Moto for the best option. They are really good at what they do and support all of their tuners with downloadable maps.
Good luck with the purchase and share some pics when you get them.
Last edited by SLV; May 28, 2013 at 01:37 PM.
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WOW - My first HD dealer experience couldn't have been more different if I tried. The floor was fairly busy (Saturday) and I had to wait patiently for a salesman but when my time came he took his time to show me what I came to see and give a brief rundown of what I could expect from them before, during and after the sale. He knew right up front that I was "only looking" but was really patient and courtious.
When I returned 2 weeks later and again waited, this time I waited for the same salesman, he "sort of remembered" me having been there earlier and we struck a deal. It had never occured to me that they wouldn't work some sort of a discount into the deal. From what I've read on here, my dealer (Liberty HD of Rahway, NJ) is among some of the nicest HD dealers to deal with.
When I returned 2 weeks later and again waited, this time I waited for the same salesman, he "sort of remembered" me having been there earlier and we struck a deal. It had never occured to me that they wouldn't work some sort of a discount into the deal. From what I've read on here, my dealer (Liberty HD of Rahway, NJ) is among some of the nicest HD dealers to deal with.
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Street Bob, yea that's a good start (Fat Bob is better) Now that we got that out of the way,I wouldn't let the dealer "Mod" my scoot.What ever you get just ride it till you get a feel for the direction you want to go w/it. The Dyna line IS the best that HD has to offer though.
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My last experience was forgettable at best. Bumpus in Memphis, walked in just to kill some time look at bikes started talking with sales guy. Sales guy ask me about then current bike told him was an 09 nightster lots of upgrades we kinda have a deal if my bike checks out. Load bike up on a Sat make a 90 mile trip guess what sales guy happened to be off never called to let me know I get the sales manager. Ok sales manager is so far off of what sales guy and I agreed upon told sales manager just to load my bike back up and I'd go back to Abernathy HD in Union City TN where I had a postive sales experience make a long story short came out with the 11 sb $25 ahead of what me and sales guy had agreed upon. Only took 6 hours of haggleing freakin' nightmare. Then sales guy had the ***** to call me later that HD would be sending a questionnaire for me to fill out concerning my overall experience with the dealership and if I would give postive feed back. Told slaes guy would not happen. Guess some HD dealerships are good and bad.
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