Electrical/Lighting/Alarm Having electrical problems? Discussion on everything electrical and lighting systems.

starter hesitation

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 19, 2017 | 02:16 PM
  #11  
6530mask's Avatar
6530mask
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 4,133
Likes: 452
From: Pittsburgh
Default

If there is electrical resistance between the battery terminal and the inside of the cable connection where it connects to the terminal a voltage drop will occur. Depending on the current flowing (IxR=VDC) through that connection a significant voltage drop can occur, the result is that the demanded current won't be supplied to the starter and the crank will be weak or non-existent, heat will be generated. It cannot be emphasized enough that clean and tight battery connections to the starter are essential, drop a few volts and your starter is getting nowhere near what is required to crank wrt amps. The solenoid will click, but the starter will not crank.
 
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2017 | 04:45 PM
  #12  
Dan89FLSTC's Avatar
Dan89FLSTC
Seasoned HDF Member
Veteran: Navy
Active Streak: 30 Days
Top Answer: 3
Top Answer: 5
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 21,173
Likes: 12,740
From: South Carolina
Default

If the terminal is loose at the battery, it will get hot, this is a common issue with Sportsters, especially if the cables are not connected in the sequence called for in the service manual.

The OP was not following that sequence (as evidenced in one of his posts in his other thread on this same issue).
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 08:48 AM
  #13  
mlrailguy's Avatar
mlrailguy
Thread Starter
|
Advanced
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
From: Moses Lake WA
Default

Ok, got battery tested at Shucks, said it was bad. Got the replacement. Pulled - cable from case, then hooked up according to manual. As soon as I slipped the - cable back on to stud in case the starter began to turn over. The key is in off position. It turned over a couple times then stopped. I went ahead and tightened the bolt. All is fine. I turned key on, everything lights up as normal, I then turned kill switch on, hit starter button and it began cranking, but as I let up on switch, starter kept cranking for a moment. Did that twice. Then battery went dead.

PS. I am looking for service manual, closest dealer 2 hrs away
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 04:24 PM
  #14  
Dan89FLSTC's Avatar
Dan89FLSTC
Seasoned HDF Member
Veteran: Navy
Active Streak: 30 Days
Top Answer: 3
Top Answer: 5
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 21,173
Likes: 12,740
From: South Carolina
Default

I think the most likely reason that the starter is cranking with the ignition switch off is a problem in the starter solenoid.

Since you have been cranking the starter with a weak battery, it may have caused the electrical contacts to weld together...

Disconnect the battery.

You can remove the end cover from the solenoid and check it out, inspect the electrical contacts, and check the plunger to make sure it is not binding.

If you do need parts for the solenoid, you can get them at any decent starter shop for a lot less money than from Harley, these parts are also available online, rebuild kits are not expensive.

The starters used on Harleys are nothing special, they are a very common automotive unit.
 

Last edited by Dan89FLSTC; Aug 21, 2017 at 04:41 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 04:26 PM
  #15  
cficole's Avatar
cficole
Outstanding HDF Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,133
Likes: 504
From: Lake County, IL
Default

"battery went dead"

What's the voltage? I'm wondering if something's still drawing current. If so, disconnect it to preserve it while not troubleshooting.
 

Last edited by cficole; Aug 21, 2017 at 04:28 PM.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 07:05 PM
  #16  
mlrailguy's Avatar
mlrailguy
Thread Starter
|
Advanced
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
From: Moses Lake WA
Default

Yep, disconnected it, let it trickle charge overnight. Took it in for load test. He said it was down a bit, but still showed 440 CCA, so the battery is still good
 
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2017 | 11:38 PM
  #17  
Zanthamos's Avatar
Zanthamos
Outstanding HDF Member
Veteran: Air Force
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,414
Likes: 433
From: Arkansas
Default

Starter relay may be fused as well. If I am not mistaken the high beam relay and the starter relay are the same model. You could try to swap them before you crack open the starter solenoid.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2017 | 04:50 AM
  #18  
Dan89FLSTC's Avatar
Dan89FLSTC
Seasoned HDF Member
Veteran: Navy
Active Streak: 30 Days
Top Answer: 3
Top Answer: 5
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 21,173
Likes: 12,740
From: South Carolina
Default

If it were a stuck starter relay, the starter would stop when the ignition switch is turned off, the relay is powered by a switched source.

That is why I suspect the solenoid.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 26, 2017 | 11:23 AM
  #19  
mlrailguy's Avatar
mlrailguy
Thread Starter
|
Advanced
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
From: Moses Lake WA
Default

The cables are actually a bit heavier guage than original, and same length.( Let battery rest on cover ) The buzz I was hearing is with run switch and key off. I hooked charger up to see if I still had lights and such is when I could hear it.
Bought a new battery, old one had gone bad in less than a year. Hooked up new battery, while it was resting on battery cover. Bike started right up. When I hit the kill switch, the starter was still cranking. Would this be the solenoid sticking, or something in the starter, relay?
And I agree with getting a manual, waiting for it to arrive in mail
 
Reply
Old Aug 26, 2017 | 11:57 AM
  #20  
cficole's Avatar
cficole
Outstanding HDF Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,133
Likes: 504
From: Lake County, IL
Default

Your process already ruled out the starter relay. You're at the solenoid.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:09 AM.

story-0
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-5
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-6
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE