VIN on engine doesn't match frame
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From: Broken Bow Oklahoma
I bought a 06 new from a dealership and the numbers didn't match. The numbers on my 13 model also bought new from a different dealer did. I asked the dealer of the 06 about the numbers not matching and could not get a straight answer. Do the numbers always match on new bikes?
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Do you work as a CHP officer?
Have you actually swapped out your Harley motor for an aftermarket and done the California DMV paperwork?
You have ten days to process your paperwork, but the DMV says if you wait till after 10 days, you will have to pay a penalty.
It does not state that if you are late filing, your bike will be impounded.
One thing I have heard the CHP have a dim view on is guys who ride without getting their motorcycle license, especially bike CHP. I have heard that at their discretion, they can have your bike impounded if your license doesn't have the M1 designation. Basically, to them, you don't have a license, and aren't allowed by law to even drive a motorcycle.
I simply haven't gotten around to sending in my paperwork.
Our shop works on several law enforcement officers' personal bikes and they have told me directly that on the rare occasion that if they check engine numbers (hasn't happened to me in 20 plus years riding in California), and you haven't done the paperwork yet, simply show the officer your MSO with your name on it that matches the engine MSO on your bike, along with your current registration, and you should be fine.
They told me they want to know the parts on the bike are legit and match the paperwork and nothing appears to be stolen.
Now, frame VIN is another story, as your registration better match your frame VIN.
Last edited by PWMORRIS; Mar 27, 2016 at 09:38 PM.
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Yes I have done a swap. And the CHP officers I have spoken with did state that if they pulled someone over with numbers that didn't match the papers they just usually impound. I guess it would depend on the rider's and the officer's attitude during the interaction, LOL. I have been on a number of outings a few years back with CHP officers from the Paso Robles area and this is what they stated, maybe they were just jerks or trying to act tough, I don't know. When I did my last swap, I was told to bring the old cases along with the MSO and a current reg to CHP, along with the bike. He did check everything. And yes I heard the same about not having an M endorsement although I have not ran into anyone that had one impounded due to that. What do they base the penalty on late registration on? When I got a penalty on a late reg/title in 2008 on a previously untitled vehicle that I had purchased new from TEX, I was 2 days late, the CA DMV does count weekends in the days lol, and the penalty was 25% of the sales tax for being late 2 days so it cost me almost $500 for those 2 days because I thought the weekends didn't count. I'm certain your situation is different than mine was but I was a little shocked.
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I bought a 06 new from a dealership and the numbers didn't match. The numbers on my 13 model also bought new from a different dealer did. I asked the dealer of the 06 about the numbers not matching and could not get a straight answer. Do the numbers always match on new bikes?
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