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Any body heard or having problems with the new 110 slip in kits?.
A friend of mine is having his replaced under warranty after 5400 miles in his 2014 wethead. He has been complaining of some sort of noise since it was installed. Dealer finally agreed there was an unusual noise and opened up the motor.
From what I understand sounds like the cylinders had ridges, but my friend is not very mechanical. I will talk to the service manager directly as this the same dealer I bought my 2014 Ultra.
Will follow up after
very quiet from the get-go...well...for a HD that is
I did HD 110 Bolt-in Jugs and pistons, GMR cam, S&S Lifters, SE compensator and GMR Compensaver, so that may have had some to do with it being quieter than all HD parts
I know of a couple in our area that have over 10K miles with no issues
Not sure which 110 kit you are talking about. I did the SE 110 stg 5 tire shredder. Have 3500 miles on it. No issues. It is a little loud in the top end at idle. Plenty of power. I am getting @ 40 mpg. I drive everyday to work on it. 45mile each way. Glad I did the upgrade on my 2012 streetglide
Any body heard or having problems with the new 110 slip in kits? A friend of mine is having his replaced under warranty after 5400 miles in his 2014 wethead. He has been complaining of some sort of noise since it was installed. Dealer finally agreed there was an unusual noise and opened up the motor. From what I understand sounds like the cylinders had ridges, but my friend is not very mechanical. I will talk to the service manager directly as this the same dealer I bought my 2014 Ultra. Will follow up after
Jerry
A member of another forum of which I am also a member works at a shop that has installed about nearly 60 110/117 drop in kits since last October; all with no issues. Sounds like your friend got a bad set of cylinders and that can happen with any HD cylinder. I would not be concerned about installing either of these kits; pretty slick option IMHO.........
I talked to the service manager and they think one of three things happened: 1) Faulty cylinder material 2) incorrect piston to cylinder wall clearance 3) incorrect piston ring end gap. They think the piston cocked in the cylinder and the rings gouged the wall. I don't know just repeating what he told me face to face.
Now I am not a mechanic but understand just enough to be dangerous. Two of these could also be caused by overheating. I know my friend thinks his 2014 Ultra is liquid cooled. I keep telling him, his bike is first air cooled, then oil cooled and finally the exhaust valve is liquid cooled for his comfort first and a by product is some engine cooling. I have seen us be in stopped traffic and we all shut our bikes down but he leaves his running believing it is liquid cooled. He also broke his reworked engine in on HD Syn 3 synthetic oil which I was to led to believe was a no-no.
I am not bad mouthing my friend but I wonder how much of this was his own doing.
I talked to the service manager and they think one of three things happened: 1) Faulty cylinder material 2) incorrect piston to cylinder wall clearance 3) incorrect piston ring end gap. They think the piston cocked in the cylinder and the rings gouged the wall. I don't know just repeating what he told me face to face. Now I am not a mechanic but understand just enough to be dangerous. Two of these could also be caused by overheating. I know my friend thinks his 2014 Ultra is liquid cooled. I keep telling him, his bike is first air cooled, then oil cooled and finally the exhaust valve is liquid cooled for his comfort first and a by product is some engine cooling. I have seen us be in stopped traffic and we all shut our bikes down but he leaves his running believing it is liquid cooled. He also broke his reworked engine in on HD Syn 3 synthetic oil which I was to led to believe was a no-no.
I am not bad mouthing my friend but I wonder how much of this was his own doing.
I doubt that over heating caused the problem. At only 5400 miles I would agree with the service manager; something wasn't right from the factory. Could have also been the result of a broken ring.
EDIT: Agree that the S/M is guessing and citing the usual suspects. The point I was trying to make is that I believe the motor wasn't right from the factory. The fact that your friend doesn't shut his motor off while sitting at a stop light, IMHO, is not the reason for the top end failure.
IMO opinion,your better off getting a 107" from a reputable indy performance/machine facility.ours,like im sure most others include a piston kit matched to the cylinders in the kit,no guessing.
I just picked up my 2016 road glide special and had them do the stage 3 110" kit because I'm not a high rpm shift guy want my torque in the middle to come on for passing cars and what not. I got 120tq and 101hp I will post my dump sheet later tonight but you will see the torque comes on early and drops off fast above 4K but it suits my riding style
Last edited by nhbouncer; Jul 14, 2016 at 06:47 PM.
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