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Old May 4, 2017 | 08:47 PM
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Here is my story. Last year I installed a fuel moto 107 kit with 777 cams, level b heads. I've had a power vision for several years and love it.
So I spent most of last year trying to get it diled in but had some trouble. Took to well known dyno tuner and got really bad results. Like 80 hp and not much over 100 tq. Far off from the 110-115 hp it should be.
Bike seemed to run great at first but as summer temps came I got a ton of detonation. I could make it go away using power vision but I had to pull all the timing and add a bunch of fuel. So over the winter I took to mechanic to take a look at and see what I did wrong. All we found was one of the cylinders was junk from heat so we put new 110 cylinders on and fuel moto warranted the junk set. (Thank you much for that.)
so now for my current setup. 110, still level b heads, still 777 cams, 58 mm tb, and Vh high output mufflers with vh power duel head pipe. Guy that did the work couldn't tune with pv so we used sert this time. I go on my first ride on 80 deg day and guess what ping, ping, ping. Wtf!!! I take it back we pull timing till it stops. 6 deg. Numbed it back out like I did last year.
Any thoughts what could be causing this kind of prob.
Fuel moto is very helpful but I work 50 hr a week and there 1100 miles fro me so I have a hard time getting in touch with them.
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Old May 4, 2017 | 09:14 PM
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What octane fuel are you running? My 110 with 58mm tb, and S&S 570 cams is doing the same thing. Spark knock is bad 2500-3000rpm from 65-80 Kpa.
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 12:50 AM
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Maybe in both cases you started with too much timing?
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 04:17 AM
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What sort of compression are you running?
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 05:18 AM
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I'm running 93 all the time. As far as timing why will it not run even close to right on the tunes Jamie sends me?
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 06:48 AM
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What is the ccp of that engine?
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Old May 5, 2017 | 07:03 AM
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What is the ccp of that engine?
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Hi Scott. I'm not sure as I didn't put it together last time. Ill Have to check it tonight. Should be around 180 I think.
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by arseclown
what sort of compression are you running?
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What did your tuner say about it?
It should be all right there for him to see.
 
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Originally Posted by lionsm13
What did your tuner say about it?
It should be all right there for him to see.
That's what has me confused about this whole thing. I'm guessing that when they dyno tune they shut off the retard advance and there not looking at spark knock either.
Two dyno tunes from different shops and the same experience.
 
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