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Old May 5, 2017 | 09:27 AM
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From the 107 build to the 110 build were the cams touched at all?
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by senna
From the 107 build to the 110 build were the cams touched at all?
Yes... I had them check all my work.
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JDG1172
Yes... I had them check all my work.
What did hey check? If it were me trouble shooting this problem, I would be putting a degree wheel on there and confirming correct valve timing.

I have the FM 107, TW777 cams 10.7-1 and in California it's only 91 octane and using a PV. Mine runs awesome, never pings, just keeps hammering on.

It's not the package, it's the set up.
 
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Old May 5, 2017 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Hillsidecycle.com
What is the ccp of that engine?
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checked it tonight and it's 178 front and rear.
 
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Old May 6, 2017 | 12:32 AM
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Like Scott said. What's the CCP. I know you said the builder set it up to 10.3:1 but what if it's not? A ccp will confirm that...
 
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Old May 6, 2017 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JDG1172
checked it tonight and it's 178 front and rear.
I haven't looked at the chart but I'd think the CCP would be more than that, something just isn't adding up.
 
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Very low for that build.. I don't think they set it up to 10.3. if they did you should be at 195 ccp with the 777 Cam. Did you do any head work.?
 
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Old May 6, 2017 | 09:28 AM
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As other have stated 178 is a little low if checking the CR at 900 ft level (Bow NH). If running flat tops as a 110 and 85 cc stock ported heads the compression ratio should be about 10.6 to 10.8 to 1 which should net you about 200 to 210 psi at sea level.. Motor will likely not need much timing to run. You may want to find someone else to tune your bike.

When doing the compression check, are you holding the throttle wide open? Is throttle system fly by wire?
 
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Old May 6, 2017 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
As other have stated 178 is a little low if checking the CR at 900 ft level (Bow NH). If running flat tops as a 110 and 85 cc stock ported heads the compression ratio should be about 10.6 to 10.8 to 1 which should net you about 200 to 210 psi at sea level.. Motor will likely not need much timing to run. You may want to find someone else to tune your bike.

When doing the compression check, are you holding the throttle wide open? Is throttle system fly by wire?
I did not hold it wide open. Oops!! It's a 2009 so yes tbw. I'll have to check it again.
 
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Old May 6, 2017 | 03:11 PM
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If this motor is built right, my bet would be that you got way too much timing and the guy tuning only has experience with stage 1 bikes... I've run 10.8 with 42 degree close. CCP was 220 psi.. Once dialed it it rarely pinged.. Did get some when I was trying to bring up the gas mileage tho..
 
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