Mind you, Fueling look like re badged Smith Bros as well ...at rather silly prices I might add

I thought they went in perfectly fine btw.

 

'Have > 160k miles (3 Bikes in Sig) on SE Tapered PRs, Cams from Stock to Wild...
Never an issue / or related issue...

 

SE Tapered are fine; running them in an all bore 107" with .600" lift cams, 124TQ/110HP, no issues. Should a re-adjustment be required, much easier to do than with SB. While I agree the SB are a good product and have run a set, that set is on the shelf at the moment having been replaced by the SE Tapereds.

 

the tapered rods are light - create harmonic issues & when used on the dyno - they don't do as well as SB`s, any PR that needs a bigger tube - think on that, the flex is amazing.

I saw a guy at one of the vintage bike shows - this was a while back when the adjustable craze was kinda new, he had plexi tubes & fluorescent paint on the PR`s to show how much flex there is & they all flex - but - ah hell........... just put tooth picks in it

honestly, they`re all good for street applications - if anything check other forums & then weigh your options!

 

SE tapereds are light but chrome moly and fairly stiff and more than adequate for 99% of the build configuration posted on this forum. Worrying about push rod flex is akin to indexing spark plugs; not at the top of my "worry" list.

 

I don't concern myself with it either. Same with weight on that side. Heaviest, stiffest PR's I have used is Jesel solids. They were also 5/16 *****. Throws out ball matching cup as well.


BTW If you order straight from SB's. They will print whatever you want on them.

 

I'm not sure you are reading things very well here. I never talked about S&S pushrods at all. As for HD getting parts made for them that is so true but again your missing one very big difference. HD designed the part and had it made so they have every right to call it there own and put whatever name they want on it. This has never been what FM does. My example in an earlier post I thought was pretty clear on this.

 

You were clear & let me preface my rebuttal - having a debate over pushrods & their difficulty to adjust is just ridiculous in the scheme of an engine mod or rebuild. Honestly if you cant afford the pushrod tube tool then you have problems more serious than adjusting PR`s

My point was more to the fact that what FM does is mild in comparison to what HD does by using foreign labor / Materials to basically build an entire product. rebadging is done all the time & I'm sure FM realizes most know the product is not their creation & clearly Smith bros. doesn't have a problem with it - but that doesn't discredit that Smith Bros. are top of the line & IMO a better PR than the S&S counterpart - JMO!

 

Sigh.... djl - you & I are like oil & water when it comes to agreeing on things, really..... rod flex & plug index is not at the top of your list?

Wow, I would of thought with the components you use, the big bore jobs, cam upgrades, advice on builds, etc... you would focus on the details - well those things you mentioned I do take a little more serious & that's what separates a git r done mechanic from a sought after mechanic.

I guess when you have head work done, valves, seats, springs, etc... & do that for more power - having a PR flex at crucial RPM bands creating a form of power loss due to valve actuation being hindered is just fine? IDK - spending tons of money for HP then going with a PR that basically costs you HP is not real smart & money in the

But I guess when its not ones money they are spending - then spend away!

 

Thats pretty strong statement and that might bite back

I am just following this thread along and enjoying the opinions and ideas from all