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Old 09-15-2017, 09:35 AM
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Ok so now I'm on the hunt to upgrade to a 107, not looking for anything wild but looking for a mild setup. I already have the S&S 551 cams installed so my next Question is will the cams I have, work with a 107 or does anyone have this setup and happy with it?

Next Question, which brand of 107 is king out there, should I get heads or will the stock head work fine.

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Looking forward to answers here.

Attached is a dyno sheet comparing a 103 to a 107 with heads. Both have the 551 cam installed.
 
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I have the S&S 106" bolt in kit with the 89cc SuperStock heads and the 551 Cams, 58mm Throttle Hog with SE Injectors. It's a great set up, mild is what I call it for sure, but I'm in search of even more power, so I'm changing cams. The next step to go without losing bottom end power is the MR103 from S&S.
so who has the best kit? I like S&S. they have been around for decades. They are reliable. Make people can do head work to produce more power, but S&S is tried and true.

Hey 2013 FLHTK, what heads are you running and how do you like your suspension? I'm about to do my suspension next.
 
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Originally Posted by iMedic
I have the S&S 106" bolt in kit with the 89cc SuperStock heads and the 551 Cams, 58mm Throttle Hog with SE Injectors. It's a great set up, mild is what I call it for sure, but I'm in search of even more power, so I'm changing cams. The next step to go without losing bottom end power is the MR103 from S&S.
so who has the best kit? I like S&S. they have been around for decades. They are reliable. Make people can do head work to produce more power, but S&S is tried and true.

Hey 2013 FLHTK, what heads are you running and how do you like your suspension? I'm about to do my suspension next.
I have a set of mr103s. Cams only with 9000 miles. I built a 124 and have no need for them. Make an offer via private message of interested.
 
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Originally Posted by iMedic
I have the S&S 106" bolt in kit with the 89cc SuperStock heads and the 551 Cams, 58mm Throttle Hog with SE Injectors. It's a great set up, mild is what I call it for sure, but I'm in search of even more power, so I'm changing cams. The next step to go without losing bottom end power is the MR103 from S&S.
so who has the best kit? I like S&S. they have been around for decades. They are reliable. Make people can do head work to produce more power, but S&S is tried and true.

Hey 2013 FLHTK, what heads are you running and how do you like your suspension? I'm about to do my suspension next.
Send me a PM. Don't want the OP to get off topic.
 

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I will buy the 103" dyno in #2 but having a tough time believing the 107" dyno; 130TQ is 1.2 and change per cubic inch which can be achieved but without knowing more about the build configuration and the dyno, not sure I believe it.

I would have second thoughts about running 551 cams in a 107" motor. Even with a .045" head gasket corrected CR is up about 9.8 and CCP approaching 210psi; pushing the envelope for me but, that's just me and I would have to hear from someone running that configuration before pulling the trigger. I understand wanting to keep the cams but a cam change and head work might be the best move with the additional displacement.

You did not mention fuel management in your OP. If you have not installed a fuel management system and had the current build properly tuned, you might invest in a tuner and proper tune. You might find that by optimizing the current configuration, the added performance might allow you to forego the displacement upgrade for the immediate future. Even with a good fuel management system, I would suspect the 551 cams in a 107" configuration to be a tuning challenge.

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I will buy the 103" dyno in #2 but having a tough time believing the 107" dyno; 130TQ is 1.2 and change per cubic inch which can be achieved but without knowing more about the build configuration and the dyno, not sure I believe it.

I would have second thoughts about running 551 cams in a 107" motor. Even with a .045" head gasket corrected CR is up about 9.8 and CCP approaching 210psi; pushing the envelope for me but, that's just me and I would have to hear from someone running that configuration before pulling the trigger. I understand wanting to keep the cams but a cam change and head work might be the best move with the additional displacement.

You did not mention fuel management in your OP. If you have not installed a fuel management system and had the current build properly tuned, you might invest in a tuner and proper tune. You might find that by optimizing the current configuration, the added performance might allow you to forego the displacement upgrade for the immediate future. Even with a good fuel management system, I would suspect the 551 cams in a 107" configuration to be a tuning challenge.

JMHO.
Djl, I always like to see those miracle dyno sheets. Far too many overachievers out there it seems.
 

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Yeah 130 lbs is hard to believe... Remember TARGET64"s 107 build.. That bike sounded nasty and I believe he hit 129/127,IIRC... But it was a pumped motor with a good deal of machining....

And yes djl, 1.2 is not achievable without good head work...
 
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Originally Posted by Mac daddy 103
Ok so now I'm on the hunt to upgrade to a 107, not looking for anything wild but looking for a mild setup. I already have the S&S 551 cams installed so my next Question is will the cams I have, work with a 107 or does anyone have this setup and happy with it?

Next Question, which brand of 107 is king out there, should I get heads or will the stock head work fine.

Thanks for any input

Me thinks that the 551 is a bit short for a 107".
Minimum compression on those, even with a .040" head gasket comes in at 10.0.
Puts the ccp up there at 210 plus.......you ain't gonna like that.
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Most all of these cams come with the EZ Start design and therefore the CCP shouldn't be a problem
 


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