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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 12:38 AM
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Ok, So long story short, I had NJ'S WORST, SELF PRO-CLAIMED "HARLEY" MECHANIC. who has messed up everything from, installing injector power leads backwards, to probably brushing his teeth, w/$hitted up TP!!.

ok, so...I have. a new, still un broken in, 107 hillside build..HOPEFULLY Undamaged, and all associated parts, Fueling Plate, Oil pump, etc etc...I did proper job, just set in RB Racing LSR 2-1 challenge pipe a month ago...With HPI Throttle body..yadda yada yada...Only Saying, as Believe in me, when I say, I was NOT SHOPPING for the cheapest, I'm in the trades, I know what the Sting feels like, that follows a CHEAP PRICED JOB!,
as I am the guy walking behind these Idiots, 99.9% of the time...

I have been doing alot of custom work, but had this work done last year...After receiving the bike, I noticed a few problems asap, called Scott, and blew his mind, as it was 95degrees out, and bike WOULDNT get hotter than 150-1609!!! He asked right away, doid I install a oil cooler, No I did not...This was, after throwing away a perfectly good tuner, and buying a Powervision, and a Target tune, And Dyno Jet on the phone for 2 hours with me, from the readings off the power vision, the guy Nailed it... say what you will, but its the truth....Now on top of this, the tappets started to get loud, like 15 min after I left, picking the bike up, and dropping off 12k CASH.....

Since..I've self learned/taught myself,Usuing various sources...
I work w/tools daily, so its a matter of manuals, help from others, and slowly,& un pleasant learning curves, iv'e done, what I consider to be a decent job.
I plan on taking it to a sought out shop, in which they have trailer and will pick bike up from my house and drop off!!...
they will go thru lots over winter, and do some recommended upgrades, and if they have to, replace any broken parts that I'm concerned for, like the tappets, rods, Lifters/rockers,etc top end.. bike had 1900k miles, still just a few hundred more...

I've been correcting many issues, well, I was ready, this weekend, to finally , take out my, 50k plus at this point Rocker C.... still not feeling right about adjustments,


Now why didnt I take back to shop? They were banging, as I pulled up my street, Smartr move... these pics your seeing, are S&S Adjustable, pushrods, on SS570 easy start comes, I ordered , 2 cometic tappet lower block gaskets, as I'm not sure I can take out, without damage, and I would lie to inspect new SS Tappets as well!!!

So 2 questions..... if I heard/Read/Saw on you tube, Correctly, while rotating rear wheel,6th gear, plugs out, I'm looking for the "tick/Bump" on Cam, As I am of the understanding with the Easy start S&S Cams 570, theres a tiny "click" or Bump, on the intake & exhaust pushrods, at that point I believe I'm not in Overlap,
I have a measuring TDC gauge I bought that threads into spark plug holes, seems useless, as it happens so fast, and doing myself, well, I don't have four eyes, so I have placed "gauge" into cylinder I want to adjust, rotate tire, 6th gear, proper direction,As I turn, I feel Other cylinder, "sucking", as I continue to spin in proper rotation, its like DEAD,
I'm assuming thats the overlap?

Right after that, as I continue rotating the rear wheel, I feel the pressure pushing out of spark plug hole,"piston rising TDC" I am of the understanding that this is where I want to adjust pushrods, the flats as per instructions,,

Now, I do one cylinder at a time, even each pushrod, waiting 30 min for oil blowdown.... Or maybe I can do both, just one cylinder at a time, I am aware, of the opening till they just "rest " on cam, get on TDC, and have at it.....Does this sound like Proper Procedure? or am I missing something, also , can I do without dropping oil? as I really rather not, have to pump, tapetts w/oil, than set, but if I have to I will, just I'm tired, of WALKING BACKWARDS, I paid good money, not like I cheated out, actually, asked and looked for the best Indy.....Thanks Gold-wing Pal!!!..Not his fault....

Hope this makes sense...I need Solid advice here....Appreciate it...

From pics, you can tell, they were at trying to adjust, and that clearly, there misplaced ....
 

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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 04:46 PM
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The way I have done it.....You can do each cylinder (intake and exhaust) at the same time. Turn the motor (spin the rear wheel), when the front two lifters (or pushrods) are moving at same time, then the rear lifters are at the bottom. You can adjust the rear pushrods to whatever you want....i do .140....then let them bleed down. When you can twist each pushrod easily with your two fingers, then you are ready to rotate motor, repeat and do the same for the front. Works for me everytime....or 3 times to be exact...lol

Sorry just realized you said EZ starts....not sure how that changes it.
 

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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 08:50 PM
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Wow! Not sure who you’re pissed at OR what your question might be. Can you shorten the question part and we'll try to help.
 
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It looks like maybe the installer put both intake pushrods on one cylinder & both exhaust pushrods on the other ?

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Originally Posted by baloot-boy
The way I have done it.....You can do each cylinder (intake and exhaust) at the same time. Turn the motor (spin the rear wheel), when the front two lifters (or pushrods) are moving at same time, then the rear lifters are at the bottom. You can adjust the rear pushrods to whatever you want....i do .140....then let them bleed down. When you can twist each pushrod easily with your two fingers, then you are ready to rotate motor, repeat and do the same for the front. Works for me everytime....or 3 times to be exact...lol

Sorry just realized you said EZ starts....not sure how that changes it.
Shouldn't change it. Is how I've done it as well. If p-rods are out, you can look into lifter bores and when they both stop moving at the same time, you're there.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by QC
Shouldn't change it. Is how I've done it as well. If p-rods are out, you can look into lifter bores and when they both stop moving at the same time, you're there.

the rods are backwards, like stated, I ordered a gasket kit, I shouldn't have to take rocker box off top to remove SS Adjustable pushrods? not the quickie.....
If thats the case, I can do exactly what you said, look right onto top tappet, when at lowest point, ill install PROPER pushrod , for exhaust and intake....
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It looks like maybe the installer put both intake pushrods on one cylinder & both exhaust pushrods on the other ?

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thats exactly what he did, I hope I can pull out pushrods to inspect, by unbolting tappet blocks, also, in regards to the tappets at lowest position, I heard mention of starting with rear cylinder, SS says to start the bleed down, etc, "process" with the Front cylinder? I always thought it didn't matter, as long as you did only ONE at a time...

so if I can remove SS adjustable PR"S with removal of tappet block, spinning rear tire forward, if I find lowest point, and accidentally, pass it up.. can I simply rotate tire in other direction, to get them set?
 

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Originally Posted by TOMMYBLAZIN
thats exactly what he did, I hope I can pull out pushrods to inspect, by unbolting tappet blocks, also, in regards to the tappets at lowest position, I heard mention of starting with rear cylinder, SS says to start the bleed down, etc, "process" with the Front cylinder? I always thought it didn't matter, as long as you did only ONE at a time...

so if I can remove SS adjustable PR"S with removal of tappet block, spinning rear tire forward, if I find lowest point, and accidentally, pass it up.. can I simply rotate tire in other direction, to get them set?
Doesn't matter which cylinder you start with, and rotating the rear wheel both directions is fine.

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Old Jul 21, 2018 | 11:49 AM
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It looks like maybe the installer put both intake pushrods on one cylinder & both exhaust pushrods on the other ?

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wow, that just sunk in....4 different sizes?....What????
 
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Can you say psycho? Help was offered and you go off like an insane idiot. Your past responses should have been a warning.. Disregard any advise given from this point on. Sorry I tried to help on this one! Above post is right on!
 

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Old Jul 25, 2018 | 08:22 PM
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OP, all the others are saying is that you provide way too much information in your posts. If you want help adjusting pushrods, all you need do is ask for help adjusting pushrods. No one is interested in the drama and backstory; we all have enough or our own to deal with. You could also use some help with sentence structure and thought organization.
 
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