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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 05:52 PM
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What is considered the safe Cold Cranking Compression PSI for a "air only" cooled 103 touring bagger capable of running safely on todays gas? My engine is going for a rebuild at the end of season and would like some info to understand.
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"Safe" for me would be 190-195psi and with compression releases. However, builders are becoming more comfortable with CCP in the 200+psi range these days. The 98" motor in my '05 FXSTD runs at 212psi with no issues; the key is in the tune.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 10:25 PM
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One of my bikes CCP is 208psi. It has over 50K miles and runs great on 93 octane with compression releases.
 
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I worry more about corrected. 9.5 is about the limit on a street 103.
 
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Thanks, according to the Bog Boyz calculator with a 0.010 over bore, Andrews 48H and a .040 head gasket I end up with 10:1 static compression ratio, corrected compression ratio of 9.59:1 and cold cranking compression of 201 at sea level. From what the replys have been this should be a safe combination. I am right is this assumption?
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Are you at sea level? If not adjust. At the CCP compression releases will extend starter and battery life. You did not provide provide the model year so maybe ACRs? If not, manual compression releases should be part of the rebuild plan.
 
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Sorry for leaving out info, 2014 Ultra 103 Air cooled with ACR's. Our home altitude is 300' above sea level, we do however travel west to the Canadian Rockies, Colorado, Montana and points westward
 
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Originally Posted by jbrooksca
Sorry for leaving out info, 2014 Ultra 103 Air cooled with ACR's. Our home altitude is 300' above sea level, we do however travel west to the Canadian Rockies, Colorado, Montana and points westward
Adjusted for seal level, you compression looks to be about 9.9 static, 9.5 corrected and 197CCP, very manageable with a good tune. The higher the altitude, the lower the CCP, so traveling to higher alititudes is not an issue. So, keeping compression in this range on the rebuild would be fine iMHO.
 
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Thanks, the builder is targetting 9.6:1 (static I am assuming) and using Andrews 48H's. He states this will be a nice reliable yet torquey build to run on crappy Canadian & US gas.
Thanks for the input and clearing things up for me to all.
 
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Originally Posted by jbrooksca
Thanks, the builder is targetting 9.6:1 (static I am assuming) and using Andrews 48H's. He states this will be a nice reliable yet torquey build to run on crappy Canadian & US gas. Thanks for the input and clearing things up for me to all.
I could be wrong but 9.6 sounds more like corrected than static and would drop corrected down to 9.2 and ccp down to 189psi which is very conservative by today's build standards and won't be taking advantage of cams and headwork. If you are not having any issues at the current level of compression, why reduce and lose power? If no ping now, you won't have a problem by retaining the current level of compression. Having said that, you haven't mentioned tuning. Regardless of where compression is set, you will need a proper dyno tune. Good luck.
 
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