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Old Dec 11, 2021 | 11:16 PM
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Aluminum is not magnetic. A moving magnet has an effect because aluminum is conductive. Move a magnet past a conductive material and it creates an Eddy current inside the material that produces a magnetic field. Any conductive material has this property.
So it is wrong to say aluminum or any paramagnetic metals are 'weakly magnetic'?
 

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Here's an interesting link:
https://www.jockeyjournal.com/thread...removal.13110/
 
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Maybe a few gallons of EvapoRust, or citric acid (available in powder on amazon) in a 5 gallon pail will work jyst as good without as much doinking around.

Another good discussion link:
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...hread.1157920/
 
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Originally Posted by tinkering
So it is wrong to say aluminum or any paramagnetic metals are 'weakly magnetic'?
Probably not wrong to say but when you say they are weakly magnetic but when moving the magnet, it's the eddy currents that generate the forces.

 

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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Probably not wrong to say but when you say they are weakly magnetic but when moving the magnet, it's the eddy currents that generate the forces.
Yes, I hear you. Paramagnetic metals don't hold a magnetic charge, if you will, but can perhaps be caused to exhibit magnetism by driving current through them as of the use in an electromagetic device. The benefit in their use might be the fact than they don't hold residual magnetism. There would be some kind of application requiring those properties but it's 3 in the morning and my great inventive mind is half asleep😴
Paramagnetism reminds me of the properties of semiconductors in transistors; they don't conduct without the control of the base-emitter current.

To me though, the bottom line in this discussion is regarding the chemical integrity of paramagnetic (and ferrous) metals when exposed to acids or alkalines of greater values on either side of the PH scale.
My query here though is if this washing soda electrolytic process amplifies the dangerous effects on certain of these 'nonferrous' metals.
As in, certain metals are made 'edge brittle' by exposure to certain solutions in the electrolysis process. Maybe it could be called hydrogen 'bite' or something.

One thing for sure, I will be extra careful in keeping a cautious working distance in the case of my aluminum, copper, brass, and bronze parts from chemical and electrolytic relationships.
For now I am going to limit my electrolysis tank to ferrous magnetic irons and steels.
Will the conrods be safe in there? I am going to pull the crank assemble apart and treat them individually so I can monitor things easier.
Again, if the situation gets too sticky I would rather get the job done by using the directions on a bottle than spending all my time on rust and corrosion removal science when indeed my main interest is getting the motor rebuilt🦥 in a timely fashion... my time stores are dwindling😃 I want to go for a ride before I pass on.

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Personally, I would only use the electrolysis de-rusting on ferrous parts that are external to the motor. I wouldn't do the rods. In fact if the rod were rusted bad enough that they need serious rust removal, I'd replace them. Doing the rods, you'll have to drive out the upper rod bushing and lower end races. I'd think that if the rust is light, a wire brush and mild abrasives would be better.
 
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Personally, I would only use the electrolysis de-rusting on ferrous parts that are external to the motor. I wouldn't do the rods. In fact if the rod were rusted bad enough that they need serious rust removal, I'd replace them. Doing the rods, you'll have to drive out the upper rod bushing and lower end races. I'd think that if the rust is light, a wire brush and mild abrasives would be better.
Excellent, thanks.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TriGeezer
Could @Kawickrice put his Chevelle in it?
If you used rust remover on that Chevelle the car would disappear.
 
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Personally, I would only use the electrolysis de-rusting on ferrous parts that are external to the motor. I wouldn't do the rods. In fact if the rod were rusted bad enough that they need serious rust removal, I'd replace them. Doing the rods, you'll have to drive out the upper rod bushing and lower end races. I'd think that if the rust is light, a wire brush and mild abrasives would be better.
Are you saying don't put flywheels in the electrolysis tanks?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2021 | 07:04 AM
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I have used this process to clean old cast iron frying pans etc. I actually used my welding machine for the power source. Look at some forums for cast iron stuff there is a good bit of info out there. Don't know about other metals, my impression was it mainly was beneficial for removing rust.
 
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