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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraNutZ
to me that chart looks about right for that build. The woods 555 cams would not have been my cam of choice for this build. They come on quick and fall off just as quick. I think Kirby is onto something with the heads in re: to your HP.

Throat diameter of the valve seat, shape of the seat cuts, shape of the valve, port opening ID, valve diameter, etc, etc, all play very important roles when performing cylinder head modifcations.
There is more in that 103"/Wood 555 combo, with the proper cylinder head work, not only hp, but more torque as well.
Hell, Jim Kennedy, strokerjlk, Matoon, Ill, has tuned our 98"/S&S .570/Stage II Heads/10.0 cr, with Rhinehart duals to 108/115, for example.
If that were a 103"..........113/118 I'd suspect with the same/same for instance.
And as long as we are talkin' small Wood cams, RC Cycles, Hayward, CA, just tuned off a 117"/10.0 cr/Wood 6/Supertrapp, with a head just a bit more than the OP's of this thread, that we machined for our client, to.................124/135 on 91 octane CA pump gas.
Dyno report on the HTT.
Whacks 120 ft/lbs about 2200-2300, and carries that number to about 5300.
A 555 would have done more, as would have a multitude of other cams, but we worked with his existing Wood 6.
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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simply putting in 1.900 valves,with not even minor port or bowl work,wont show any more than the stock valve.like scott said,it all has to work in unison.even with our base headwork,the port & bowl are contured for a 1.900 valve
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 01:59 PM
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Right on, Kirby.
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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Kirby, how far would you guess my 585 will keep making power, like I messages you before I'm planning on setting me limiter at around 6700 when I dyno it.

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I don't think it will go that far, but want to know the drop off for sure so I don't want to limit it to early.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Kirby, how far would you guess my 585 will keep making power, like I messages you before I'm planning on setting me limiter at around 6700 when I dyno it.

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I don't think it will go that far, but want to know the drop off for sure so I don't want to limit it to early.
Will the connecting rods take 6700 rpm??? That's a lot of reciprocating mass changing direction 180 degrees at 6700*2 = 13,400 time per minute

I didn't know that stock HD connecting rods could do that - or they have been replaced by stronger ones?

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Old Apr 16, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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Besides rods the entire bottom end it beefed up as much as possible (welded, blueprinted, balanced, timkin).
 
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Old Apr 17, 2014 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JimGnitecki
Will the connecting rods take 6700 rpm??? That's a lot of reciprocating mass changing direction 180 degrees at 6700*2 = 13,400 time per minute

I didn't know that stock HD connecting rods could do that - or they have been replaced by stronger ones?

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They will "go" there, but I doubt if they'll "live" there.
Carillo would be the choice, but when an H-beam comes apart, it'll go through an engine like a chain-saw.
Doubt if a street-driven gas bike, would break a Carillo rod though.
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Old Apr 18, 2014 | 06:49 AM
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it should make power up to that,but I have to say that I don't recommend taking it that high.thats REALLY winging it out,
 
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Originally Posted by prodrag1320
it should make power up to that,but I have to say that I don't recommend taking it that high.thats REALLY winging it out,
If the photo in your signature is any indication of what you "do", then I'd say your warning here about keeping the rpm lower should really, really be heeded! If YOU don't do it, no way any street bike should be!

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sounds good fellas. Thanks for the info. I might not take it that high up.................can't wait to finally break her in and really enjoy the bike!
 
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