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From: Ohio
Ya, the Orca engines are another level.
If buying a complete engine and can get over the cost of a 2 cylinder engine costing 6 grand then I would vote for a S&S 124. It is full of potential with a compression bump, head work and probably the best engine that can reach max output in the right hands.
The Ultima 127 when trying to jump it up a level won't stay with the design of the S&S 124 and my info is from following major engine builders that do this for a living. Now there is a Ultima 131 posted in a dyno forum that put down 150 ft lbs of torque at 3500 rpm, that will get it done on a throttle roll on. Lets face it, when you start pushing over 150/150 on a street engine, stupid power starts becoming stupid power.
R&R engines are another custom engine that gets stupid, turbos on strong engines cross to giddyup and unlimited.
If buying a complete engine and can get over the cost of a 2 cylinder engine costing 6 grand then I would vote for a S&S 124. It is full of potential with a compression bump, head work and probably the best engine that can reach max output in the right hands.
The Ultima 127 when trying to jump it up a level won't stay with the design of the S&S 124 and my info is from following major engine builders that do this for a living. Now there is a Ultima 131 posted in a dyno forum that put down 150 ft lbs of torque at 3500 rpm, that will get it done on a throttle roll on. Lets face it, when you start pushing over 150/150 on a street engine, stupid power starts becoming stupid power.
R&R engines are another custom engine that gets stupid, turbos on strong engines cross to giddyup and unlimited.
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Easton MA
Started out with a Headquarters "system 85" which is an 0029 cam,springs, ignition, and their headwork. Claims 85 hp. Ran good but........not enough.
Next build, 10:1 Pistons, Woods 6H cam & springs, Dyna2ki ignition, fueling lifters, more massaging of heads. More kick, ran it for 10K. But.......not enough
Next build....SELL MOTOR, buy S&S crate 124 with IST ignition, wait 4 months for an RB racing pro stock pipe, and change trans pulley to 34T. Now were talkin!! Damn this thing screws....yippeee!!
But......not enough and it's the 1st week of December. Time to void a warranty!
Pull the heads, carb, cam, and ignition. Get a Dynatek 2Ki, and bring the heads to Hillside Machine for porting, bump compression to 11:3-1, Bore the carb, add a thunderjet. Buy a Woods 9F cam. Put it all back together. Did 150 miles last weekend and wow does it REV out to 5K quick and pull!! Daaaaaamn!!
So.....thats where I'm at with my dream motor......
Lesson learned, don't drop $$$ on an 80" EVO chasin big power. Just go big.
Next build, 10:1 Pistons, Woods 6H cam & springs, Dyna2ki ignition, fueling lifters, more massaging of heads. More kick, ran it for 10K. But.......not enough
Next build....SELL MOTOR, buy S&S crate 124 with IST ignition, wait 4 months for an RB racing pro stock pipe, and change trans pulley to 34T. Now were talkin!! Damn this thing screws....yippeee!!
But......not enough and it's the 1st week of December. Time to void a warranty!
Pull the heads, carb, cam, and ignition. Get a Dynatek 2Ki, and bring the heads to Hillside Machine for porting, bump compression to 11:3-1, Bore the carb, add a thunderjet. Buy a Woods 9F cam. Put it all back together. Did 150 miles last weekend and wow does it REV out to 5K quick and pull!! Daaaaaamn!!
So.....thats where I'm at with my dream motor......
Lesson learned, don't drop $$$ on an 80" EVO chasin big power. Just go big.
Dirt don't hurt
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 21,065
Likes: 4,561
From: Haslet Texas
Started out with a Headquarters "system 85" which is an 0029 cam,springs, ignition, and their headwork. Claims 85 hp. Ran good but........not enough.
Next build, 10:1 Pistons, Woods 6H cam & springs, Dyna2ki ignition, fueling lifters, more massaging of heads. More kick, ran it for 10K. But.......not enough
Next build....SELL MOTOR, buy S&S crate 124 with IST ignition, wait 4 months for an RB racing pro stock pipe, and change trans pulley to 34T. Now were talkin!! Damn this thing screws....yippeee!!
But......not enough and it's the 1st week of December. Time to void a warranty!
Pull the heads, carb, cam, and ignition. Get a Dynatek 2Ki, and bring the heads to Hillside Machine for porting, bump compression to 11:3-1, Bore the carb, add a thunderjet. Buy a Woods 9F cam. Put it all back together. Did 150 miles last weekend and wow does it REV out to 5K quick and pull!! Daaaaaamn!!
So.....thats where I'm at with my dream motor......
Lesson learned, don't drop $$$ on an 80" EVO chasin big power. Just go big.
Next build, 10:1 Pistons, Woods 6H cam & springs, Dyna2ki ignition, fueling lifters, more massaging of heads. More kick, ran it for 10K. But.......not enough
Next build....SELL MOTOR, buy S&S crate 124 with IST ignition, wait 4 months for an RB racing pro stock pipe, and change trans pulley to 34T. Now were talkin!! Damn this thing screws....yippeee!!
But......not enough and it's the 1st week of December. Time to void a warranty!
Pull the heads, carb, cam, and ignition. Get a Dynatek 2Ki, and bring the heads to Hillside Machine for porting, bump compression to 11:3-1, Bore the carb, add a thunderjet. Buy a Woods 9F cam. Put it all back together. Did 150 miles last weekend and wow does it REV out to 5K quick and pull!! Daaaaaamn!!
So.....thats where I'm at with my dream motor......
Lesson learned, don't drop $$$ on an 80" EVO chasin big power. Just go big.
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,078
Likes: 2,150
From: Ohio
Started out with a Headquarters "system 85" which is an 0029 cam,springs, ignition, and their headwork. Claims 85 hp. Ran good but........not enough.
Next build, 10:1 Pistons, Woods 6H cam & springs, Dyna2ki ignition, fueling lifters, more massaging of heads. More kick, ran it for 10K. But.......not enough
Next build....SELL MOTOR, buy S&S crate 124 with IST ignition, wait 4 months for an RB racing pro stock pipe, and change trans pulley to 34T. Now were talkin!! Damn this thing screws....yippeee!!
But......not enough and it's the 1st week of December. Time to void a warranty!
Pull the heads, carb, cam, and ignition. Get a Dynatek 2Ki, and bring the heads to Hillside Machine for porting, bump compression to 11:3-1, Bore the carb, add a thunderjet. Buy a Woods 9F cam. Put it all back together. Did 150 miles last weekend and wow does it REV out to 5K quick and pull!! Daaaaaamn!!
So.....thats where I'm at with my dream motor......
Lesson learned, don't drop $$$ on an 80" EVO chasin big power. Just go big.
Next build, 10:1 Pistons, Woods 6H cam & springs, Dyna2ki ignition, fueling lifters, more massaging of heads. More kick, ran it for 10K. But.......not enough
Next build....SELL MOTOR, buy S&S crate 124 with IST ignition, wait 4 months for an RB racing pro stock pipe, and change trans pulley to 34T. Now were talkin!! Damn this thing screws....yippeee!!
But......not enough and it's the 1st week of December. Time to void a warranty!
Pull the heads, carb, cam, and ignition. Get a Dynatek 2Ki, and bring the heads to Hillside Machine for porting, bump compression to 11:3-1, Bore the carb, add a thunderjet. Buy a Woods 9F cam. Put it all back together. Did 150 miles last weekend and wow does it REV out to 5K quick and pull!! Daaaaaamn!!
So.....thats where I'm at with my dream motor......
Lesson learned, don't drop $$$ on an 80" EVO chasin big power. Just go big.
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