Valve Guide Seal Installation Tool
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Valve Guide Seal Installation Tool
Hey Folks!
Do I actually need a special tool to install valve guide seals on my '93 80 Evo?
If so, do I need to spend nearly $60 for the JIMS tool (P/N 34643-84)?
If not, what less expensive tool should I buy? Will the V-Twin Manufacturing P/N 16-1746 work? It's only $15.
Thanks!
-Dave
Do I actually need a special tool to install valve guide seals on my '93 80 Evo?
If so, do I need to spend nearly $60 for the JIMS tool (P/N 34643-84)?
If not, what less expensive tool should I buy? Will the V-Twin Manufacturing P/N 16-1746 work? It's only $15.
Thanks!
-Dave
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With OEM type seals, then yes, you need the tool. The plastic (Vtwin mfg) type will work fine for casual use. If you're doing it for a living, get the good one.
If you're using the Viton type valve seals (Cometic, Jims, James, Falcon) they're available everywhere and work quite well, you don't need a tool at all unless you're doing it "on engine." If so, a 7/16", 12 point deep socket will work just fine.
If you're using the Viton type valve seals (Cometic, Jims, James, Falcon) they're available everywhere and work quite well, you don't need a tool at all unless you're doing it "on engine." If so, a 7/16", 12 point deep socket will work just fine.
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With OEM type seals, then yes, you need the tool. The plastic (Vtwin mfg) type will work fine for casual use. If you're doing it for a living, get the good one.
If you're using the Viton type valve seals (Cometic, Jims, James, Falcon) they're available everywhere and work quite well, you don't need a tool at all unless you're doing it "on engine." If so, a 7/16", 12 point deep socket will work just fine.
If you're using the Viton type valve seals (Cometic, Jims, James, Falcon) they're available everywhere and work quite well, you don't need a tool at all unless you're doing it "on engine." If so, a 7/16", 12 point deep socket will work just fine.
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With OEM type seals, then yes, you need the tool. The plastic (Vtwin mfg) type will work fine for casual use. If you're doing it for a living, get the good one.
If you're using the Viton type valve seals (Cometic, Jims, James, Falcon) they're available everywhere and work quite well, you don't need a tool at all unless you're doing it "on engine." If so, a 7/16", 12 point deep socket will work just fine.
If you're using the Viton type valve seals (Cometic, Jims, James, Falcon) they're available everywhere and work quite well, you don't need a tool at all unless you're doing it "on engine." If so, a 7/16", 12 point deep socket will work just fine.
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Cool.
Mark the guides 1/4" from the top and push them on with your fingers down to the mark. Some "say" you don't necessarily need a protective sleeve on the valve stem with that type, but I never chance it.
Mark the guides 1/4" from the top and push them on with your fingers down to the mark. Some "say" you don't necessarily need a protective sleeve on the valve stem with that type, but I never chance it.
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Thanks again!
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I still need to use the Loctite 620 with Cometic seals, correct?
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NO sealer of any type with valve seals.
NO sealer of any type with valve seals.
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Really? That's what the Service Manual says. Page 3-27, "Apply a small amount of RC 620 Loctite (green) retaining compound to outside diameter of guide near the top of guide. Place a protective sleeve over the valve stem keeper grooves. Coat the sleeve with oil and place a new seal over the valve stem." Does this only apply to the OEM style seals?
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You could do that with OEM seals since they're metal collars, but the ones you have are rubber coated inside the collar. Don't use any chemicals on rubber other than lube, where applicable... But do use a protective sleeve (or a single turn of cellophane tape) on the stem at the lock groove.
Last edited by t150vej; Apr 25, 2020 at 06:48 PM.