1996 Heritage wheel bearing shim/washer
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If your using bearings that are already in there, and you have owned the bike since brand new, they a probably set up with the proper spacing (but still a good idea to check). If you are installing new bearings and races, then your starting from scratch.
If this is a new to you used bike, you should check the end play. YD
If this is a new to you used bike, you should check the end play. YD
have just removed bearings, cleaned and regreased them as they looked pretty good.
My question is - when buttoned back together with spacer and washer and top hat all installed, there is a significant gap between the seal and the outer of the bearing as you can see in the picture. Is that correct??
I have so far seated the seals flush with the outer surface, as the manual says nothing about seal depth?
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I didn't realise until afterward (my sh$ty manual says nothing about it?) That I'm supposed to mock up the the wheel on its axle WITHOUT any grease to check the end play correctly.... So before checking anything l went ahead and greased everything and reinstalled everything, and do you know if there is any way of checking end play now that it's full of grease?? I really don't want to pull it all apart again and clean it all up...
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Where you have the seal is correct.
There is usually a spacer that goes into the seal and is a little proud of the wheel seal.
If you do not have that spacer the wheel spacers you do have should seal that area when you install the wheel.
There is usually a spacer that goes into the seal and is a little proud of the wheel seal.
If you do not have that spacer the wheel spacers you do have should seal that area when you install the wheel.
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Double check your manual or a parts diagram... there should be something in their taking up the empty space filling the gap. Even if it's part of the brake caliper. you need some sort of support in there. Maybe I misunderstood when you said, "no spacer" but there should be something there. YD
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Double check your manual or a parts diagram... there should be something in their taking up the empty space filling the gap. Even if it's part of the brake caliper. you need some sort of support in there. Maybe I misunderstood when you said, "no spacer" but there should be something there. YD
What I'm worried about now though is how do I check the end play now that I've packed the bearings with gear and installed the seals? Guess l can't?
Thanks for your advice.
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Yeah, now l know what you mean 😁 I had left it with the axle that l put on the shelf..... Man l feel stupid.
What I'm worried about now though is how do I check the end play now that I've packed the bearings with gear and installed the seals? Guess l can't?
Thanks for your advice.
What I'm worried about now though is how do I check the end play now that I've packed the bearings with gear and installed the seals? Guess l can't?
Thanks for your advice.
Sure you can. All you gotta do is clean off all the grease.
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Yeah, if you've not changed bearings and you used the same shims that came out, you're good.
Different years/models/wheels have different outer spacers, depending on the front end. It's totally normal to have more gap between the seal and bearing on one side of the wheel.
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You can use your "end play check" with grease as a reference ...
For example and just using the .002-.006" as a reference, if you check your end play and it's .008" ... Well, it's Not going to get "tighter" without grease ... Need to Re-shim.
On the other hand, if you get .002" with grease, I would say you're probably good to go
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For example and just using the .002-.006" as a reference, if you check your end play and it's .008" ... Well, it's Not going to get "tighter" without grease ... Need to Re-shim.
On the other hand, if you get .002" with grease, I would say you're probably good to go
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I am curious where the .002" to .006" clearance recommended in this thread came from.
Over the years I've set the clearance on only 8 or 10 wheels but I have used the specs from the manual which is .004" to .018" and not had problems.
I'd say the wheels I've set that clearance on are for the most part from the 70's and 80's.
I've seen this tighter clearance recommended a few times...where does it come from?
Over the years I've set the clearance on only 8 or 10 wheels but I have used the specs from the manual which is .004" to .018" and not had problems.
I'd say the wheels I've set that clearance on are for the most part from the 70's and 80's.
I've seen this tighter clearance recommended a few times...where does it come from?