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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 01:51 PM
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I would think that it has oil some sort of oil pressure if you took it for a test ride and the engine did not seize up, It is possible that your new pressure switch is faulty especially if aftermarket "china"?
I bought the s&s one from j&p cycles. But if there's one thing I've learned with sensors it's that they can always be bad out of the box
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 01:54 PM
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I bought the s&s one from j&p cycles. But if there's one thing I've learned with sensors it's that they can always be bad out of the box
True to that
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 02:00 PM
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The check ball spring is very light and doubtful it would be the issue.

You should check the bypass spring and plunger to make sure it slides freely in the bore and isn't scored. It's the plug on the tall tower of the pump pump directly behind the tappet screen plug. There's a spring and cup valve. May need a pencil magnet to get the valve out.

Since you rode it with no noises, you have some oil pressure but after verifying the light circuit is good, further checking is definitely a good idea.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 02:15 PM
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The check ball spring is very light and doubtful it would be the issue.

You should check the bypass spring and plunger to make sure it slides freely in the bore and isn't scored. It's the plug on the tall tower of the pump pump directly behind the tappet screen plug. There's a spring and cup valve. May need a pencil magnet to get the valve out.

Since you rode it with no noises, you have some oil pressure but after verifying the light circuit is good, further checking is definitely a good idea.
The reason I thought check ball first is because my understanding is that the passage to the oil pressure switch comes from the same port.

All three caps will be coming off to replace with new hex head fittings so I will check the relief valve to ensure it is moving freely and visually inspect while it's open. That is the bypass valve you are referring to correct?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 02:24 PM
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Yes thats what T150evj is talking about , the bypass valve in the oil pump
 
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Old Jan 25, 2021 | 02:26 PM
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Could definitely give you low oil pressure if stuck and bypassing
 
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Originally Posted by USMCDan
The reason I thought check ball first is because my understanding is that the passage to the oil pressure switch comes from the same port.

All three caps will be coming off to replace with new hex head fittings so I will check the relief valve to ensure it is moving freely and visually inspect while it's open. That is the bypass valve you are referring to correct?
Yes, referring to the bypass valve in the earlier post. Without a bunch of photos to mark up, I'll try to be concise.

The oil from the tank goes directly to the feed gears. Feed gears pump oil to the bottom of the check ball seat. Basically no pressure required to open the check. Then the oil goes up thru a passage to the bottom of the bypass valve. In that chamber there is a drilling that goes at a 45 angle to the cam chest cover and feeds the crank pin via the pinion shaft.

Also from the bypass chamber, oil goes to the journal and thru the tappet screen and feeds the tappets thru the guides and on up thru the push rods, rockers and sprays the valve springs. It's this journal the pressure switch is drilled/threaded into.

When the bypass valve opens, it puts the extra oil directly back into feed gear cavity.

I've never done it so can't speak to the effects, but verify it doesn't have a Twin Cam oil filter. If in doubt, use a Wix 51215 or equivalent till you get sorted out.
 
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A Twin cam filter will have no effect on oil pressure, the oil filter on an Evo is on the scavenge side of the oil circuit.
 
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Originally Posted by t150vej
Yes, referring to the bypass valve in the earlier post. Without a bunch of photos to mark up, I'll try to be concise.

The oil from the tank goes directly to the feed gears. Feed gears pump oil to the bottom of the check ball seat. Basically no pressure required to open the check. Then the oil goes up thru a passage to the bottom of the bypass valve. In that chamber there is a drilling that goes at a 45 angle to the cam chest cover and feeds the crank pin via the pinion shaft.

Also from the bypass chamber, oil goes to the journal and thru the tappet screen and feeds the tappets thru the guides and on up thru the push rods, rockers and sprays the valve springs. It's this journal the pressure switch is drilled/threaded into.

When the bypass valve opens, it puts the extra oil directly back into feed gear cavity.

I've never done it so can't speak to the effects, but verify it doesn't have a Twin Cam oil filter. If in doubt, use a Wix 51215 or equivalent till you get sorted out.
Cracked open the service manual for my 1993 fxstc (still waiting on the manual for this scoot to arrive) and followed along your instructions while looking at the schematic. Makes perfect sense! Thank you for educating me! Will probably be cracking open the relief valve tonight instead of waiting for the new cap to arrive
 
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It would probably give you peace of mind, if you get an adapter so you can hook a manual oil pressure gauge to check it out
 
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