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Old Jul 24, 2021 | 01:44 PM
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Is it a new OEM (chrome from HD) sender? The WK post should give that reading and open or infinity reading when engine started.

Try to get a reading on the "G" with the engine running. If still zero (grounded), it's a bad sender.
With everything connected, switch on the gauge should come up to zero or a tick over. Switch on, green wire unhooked, gauge should go over 40. If that doesn't check out, may be the gauge shorted.

Green wire unhooked, switch on - check voltage on green wire. Should be very low (millivolts). If it's showing a full 12v on the green wire, gauge is shorted and that can "pop" the variable resistor and destroy the sender. (don't ask me how I know)
 
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Old Jul 24, 2021 | 04:25 PM
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Don't know the gauge connection setup on your 97. My 98 FLHTCUI uses spade connectors. I found (fairing off, bike running), that jiggling spade connectors at the gauges give me a connect/disconnect. Out of 4 gauges 3.do this. It's inside the gauge where the Male spade connector reaches the gauge internals. Would like to pull out oil gauge,and look at it but appears nearly impossible to get out with my big hands...hard to even see or touch. Zip ties in the "right" direction to pull on wires so it works most of the time. Guess gauges just wear out from vibration. No solution for that one I can see, and want to keep bike all stock.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2021 | 05:27 PM
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Thanks for all the help guys. I know I have oil pressure, but I just don't like seeing that gauge at 0 psi.

I'm going to pull the fairing off and see what's going on at the gauge.

I'll let you know what I find out.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2021 | 05:29 PM
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Thanks for all the help guys. I know I have oil pressure, but I just don't like seeing that gauge at 0 psi.

I'm going to pull the fairing off and see what's going on at the gauge.

I'll let you know what I find out.
Did the "short-to-ground" and "unhook the wire from "G" post" do anything at the gauge?
 
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Old Jul 25, 2021 | 07:45 AM
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Yes. The gauge reacts as it should when the "G" wire is removed and when it is grounded. This makes me think my gauge is ok, and the switch is faulty.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2021 | 09:00 AM
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Yes. The gauge reacts as it should when the "G" wire is removed and when it is grounded. This makes me think my gauge is ok, and the switch is faulty.
Yep, I'd say switch for sure.

That sux if you got a bad brand new OEM (and expensive) sender. They won't take returns for any reason. If it was a VDO version sold by many retailers which has a dull finish, could be a bad one or mis-labeled and incorrect. VDO makes several that look the same, but are for different apps that won't match up. OEM sender is 74406-87
 
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Old Jul 25, 2021 | 01:59 PM
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I'm pretty sure it is the switch, Pulled the outer fairing off today, just to have a look and verify continuity from the switch to the gauge. Everything was ok.

You are right...... it sucks that I paid $73.00 for a OEM switch that didn't solve the issue. I guess I need to decide if I want to purcahse another switch or ride it like it is and depend on the idiot light.

Thanks for everyone help. I do appreciate it.

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Old Jul 27, 2021 | 09:33 PM
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I would disconnect the pressure sender wires, measure the resistance, start the bike and measure.
 
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Thanks. I will try that.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 08:28 AM
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Assuming your 97 is wired up like my 86, there should be 2 terminals on the sender. One should have a yellow wire and one should have a green wire with a black stripe. The yellow wire terminal is for the idiot light. It should be grounded when the motor is not running and open when the motor is running. The other terminal (the one with a green/black) is the pressure sender. It should vary with oil pressure. According to t150vej, it should go high with higher pressure. So, low at not running, higher at running. Both senders (there's really 2 in one, the pressure and the idiot switch) ground through the engine block.

Is it possible that you put the wires on the wrong terminals on the new sender? Again, I would suggest removing the wires, measuring the resistance from each terminal to ground, starting the bike and measuring again. The one that is grounded/really low (might be an ohm or two) when not running and open when running is the idiot light sender and should have the yellow wire. The other one should read low when not running and higher when running, but not open. That should have the green/black.
 
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