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Old Sep 30, 2025 | 06:22 AM
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Hi there!

Unfortunately I had a crash with the bike last week. It’s a 1996 FLHTCUI that I just bought 2 months ago. The accident was real bad but the good thing is that I’m here writing this post and seems that all will heal with time - at the end of the day that’s what matters.

I don’t know if I will have the courage to ride again. But if I do, I decided that I need ABS. This time was close, and I feel that ABS would have significantly mitigated the accident.

I did some research, but it seems impossible to adapt any aftermarket ABS kit to the bike. I got the bike at a good price, and spent a lot of time working on it, and sell it to buy a new one with ABS would be the last option. The bike has only 25000 km.

As I will have time (the recover process seems that it will last months), I came across to the idea of change the entire MM system to a post 2008 delphi EFI system
and somehow add the ABS. I didn’t read this anywhere, it’s an idea that I had, so I don’t know if it’s even possible.

I like challenges and I love to spend time working on the bike and learning things, so that won’t be a problem. I know also that if it’s possible it won’t be cheap, but I’m decided to do it (obviously with a reasonable price limits).

Do you think it’s possible? Has anyone tried or thought it?

Thanks!
 
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Old Sep 30, 2025 | 06:29 AM
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Firstly, glad you are ok and looking to get back on the horse.
Second, trade the bike for a newer model. Mainly because of the ABS. I don't think there's enough room in the older chassis to fit an ABS unit. Plus all the electrical work that would be required.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2025 | 06:34 AM
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It would be easier and probably cheaper to buy a newer bike with factory ABS.

Glad you are still around to post.
 
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Thank you for your words! Yes, it will all heal with time, I’m confident about that.

About the bike, I know it’d be easier and probably cheaper to just sell it and buy a new one equipped with ABS. But man, I love this bike, and I will need something to keep me entertained while I can’t get back to work. I did some more research and found this on another forum, credits to the user “twolanerider”

2008 and you've got some options. But it's not entirely plug and play. Close, but not quite. You can use 2008 ABS for the donor conversion parts and make an old Marelli bike (or a pre-08 Delphi bike) an ABS bike. It's more work and more parts but it's a do-able proposition. Have done two of these (and wish I'd done my own like that years ago when I converted it).
I will try to contact him and see if it’s possible to do on a EVO engine, maybe it’s just for twin cam. I’ll keep updating.

What are your thoughts about this?
 
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Why does it need to be equipped with MM or fuel injected to work?
 
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Definitely not worth doing. Buy a newer bike with abs. If you’re bound and determined to keep that bike. I’d recommend upgrading the calipers to the twin cam two piston ones and get rid of the old garbage single piston calipers that came on that era of bikes and swap the MM efi to a carb.
 
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Originally Posted by Architect
Why does it need to be equipped with MM or fuel injected to work?
I think that it has to be a delphi EFI post 2008. Still investigating, but as the ABS was introduced in 2008 I suposse that the EFI changed to receive the parameters of the ABS sensors and etc. At least that is what I understand.

Originally Posted by Silentgreyfellow
Definitely not worth doing. Buy a newer bike with abs. If you’re bound and determined to keep that bike. I’d recommend upgrading the calipers to the twin cam two piston ones and get rid of the old garbage single piston calipers that came on that era of bikes and swap the MM efi to a carb.
Yep, I know that maybe is not the best option on the paper, but I'd like to make the numbers first and see of how much we're talking about in time and money, that's why I'm trying to figure out if it's possible. And thank you for the calipers recommendation, to be honest I didn't know that but I will take a look for sure! Smile
 
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Really glad you’re ok.

Curious, why do you feel ABS would have helped?

Were your brakes stock? In good working condition?

An option… watch YouTube training videos on stopping a Harley. Have no clue your skill level.. just offering you could probably benefit learning all you can in way of technique. For example smashing the rear break you’ll slide, if you slide you start to lose control of direction. Front break in harmony with back is the ticket.

Also could you upgrade your brakes? Buy the bracket to put late model dual four piston calipers in place of your single calipers. Upgrade the lines to hard lines or at least braided stainless with less flex.

Upgrade your rotors to floating rotors.

Flush your break fluids and use good quality dot 5 fluid.

Check your fork oil and spring tension, does it brake dive?

Practice stopping… not kidding here. Go to a large parking lot daily for a few months. Go at say 30 mph and see how fast you can stop. Try different techniques.
then go 40 mph and do it again. Then 50 mph.. ride over the lines and count how many? As you improve get it to less and less.

You’ll discover with some practice you’ll cut your stopping time in half. The upgrades I mentioned will go a long way.

If you think on your accident, if you could have stoped 10-12 feet sooner could it have been avoided altogether?
 

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Have you taken a motorcycle safety course? That's cheaper than upgrading your brakes.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2025 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoginedgewood
Have you taken a motorcycle safety course? That's cheaper than upgrading your brakes.
This was my first question as well. OP- IDK what your experience and skill level is, but if you're new to bikes, or if you've never taken a safety course, I would strongly urge you to do so.
And if you love the bike you have, upgrade the brakes to later year Twin Cam style. Yes, you probably can add ABS with enough time, money, and labor, but at what point does it become too much?

 
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