Why is this section so small???
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From: Qualicum Beach, B.C. CAN
From my experience the Evo people are the same people that know the value of an older Chevy pickup (or Ford, so I don't get beaten down...)
still eat red meat,
probably like coffee (as opposed to lattte)
maybe have worn out some tools...
good people.
Glad I got mine.
Oh, and EVOs are strong! (think small-block Chevy)
by the way, I am ducking as I post this
still eat red meat,
probably like coffee (as opposed to lattte)
maybe have worn out some tools...
good people.
Glad I got mine.
Oh, and EVOs are strong! (think small-block Chevy)
by the way, I am ducking as I post this
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 193
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From: Arnold, MO
From my experience the Evo people are the same people that know the value of an older Chevy pickup (or Ford, so I don't get beaten down...)
still eat red meat, Th
probably like coffee (as opposed to lattte)
maybe have worn out some tools...
good people.
Glad I got mine.
Oh, and EVOs are strong! (think small-block Chevy)
by the way, I am ducking as I post this
still eat red meat, Th
probably like coffee (as opposed to lattte)
maybe have worn out some tools...
good people.
Glad I got mine.
Oh, and EVOs are strong! (think small-block Chevy)
by the way, I am ducking as I post this
The rarer the better.
If it doesn't look like oil you shouldn't drink it.
Tools don't wear out they just get retired out of respect for what they helped you accomplish.
Gotta to argee with the small block chevy.
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From: Bedford UK
CarlGrover, thanks for clarifying a couple items. I can understand where you are coming from with upper management and non logical decisions.
Lets discuss updated designs that made a better mousetrap over the Evo
Cams - better pushrod angle, costs 3 times more to replace
Chain to drive cams over factory gear drive, HD removed the chain drive
final for a belt, reinstalled a chain in the motor dah!
Chain tensioners - brilliant
Gear drive conversion - sell a kidney
Pressed crankpin - extra crank was factored into purchase price and
givin to the purchaser with the dealership t-shirt
Big bore spigot design - add one point
Heat is an emmision factor so it is nuetral
Lets discuss updated designs that made a better mousetrap over the Evo
Cams - better pushrod angle, costs 3 times more to replace
Chain to drive cams over factory gear drive, HD removed the chain drive
final for a belt, reinstalled a chain in the motor dah!
Chain tensioners - brilliant
Gear drive conversion - sell a kidney
Pressed crankpin - extra crank was factored into purchase price and
givin to the purchaser with the dealership t-shirt
Big bore spigot design - add one point
Heat is an emmision factor so it is nuetral
To improve performance, the latest Sportsters and Buells have down-draft induction, with the airbox central in the 'tank'. Keeping the airbox in its traditional place will limit performance of the big twins and require clever noise reduction.
I guess the twin-cam set-up is also quieter than the old Evo. As for cam gear-drive conversion, that looks to me like that very US thing, of finding imaginative ways of parting people with their cash! The factory could have done it that way, but I reckon their solution is marginally quieter.
Pressed crank? Don't know why Harley adopted it, but Velocette made them that way, the only 500cc bike in the world to do 100mph for 24 hours (in 1961). So they do work!
This is an International conspiracy and it is a credit to Harley they are still finding ways to continue air cooled engine production.
When new my International spec FLHS had more severe restrictive features than US models, including quieter mufflers, different ignition timing module, 28mm restrictor in the inlet manifold and a quieter airbox, all to meet Swiss laws! A bit rich because Swiss bike and car owners would probably win a race with the US market in ripping it all off....
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From: North Atlanta Area, GA
I think this section is smaller because there are a lot more well-off yuppies out there who know absolutely nothing about wrenching (and couldn't care less) and who will plop down $20,000 or more on a new Harley (plus another thousand or two on MoCo duds), and a lot fewer creative mechanically-minded people who will plop down only $10,000 or less on an older Evo and then spend another $5,000 (maybe more...) doing performance mods and customization. So, less money but a lot more reliable, simpler, and better-performing bike at the end. But it isn't "new"...
I think there are less Evo folks simply because you don't see the MoCo spending megabucks to promote Evos, since they don't make them anymore... nor on Shovels, Pans, or Knuckles either... but there appears to still be a good number of smart people left who appreciate good engineering, and who understand what they can buy and tweak for significantly less capital outlay than buying a new stock twinkie.
I also agree on the Chevy 350 small-block... I had a Blazer with a 350 in the olden tymes. It was bulletproof, like the Evo. A version is still manufactured, but now it's the "5.7 liter V-8". My current 2005 Avalanche has the 5.3 liter V8, 290HP, and runs very strong - 90 MPH feels like it's standing still!.
Oh, and IMHO I think that "Evo Classic Forum" sounds MUCH nicer than "Not Made Anymore Forum" or "Tired Iron Forum" or "Prices In The Pooper Forum"! (I love that thread...) But my bike is a "classic" only because it's a 95 FLHT(P), which coincidentally was the Electra Glide's 30th anniversary. Big deal... that and $4 will get you a cup of latte at Starbucks (Oh sorry... this is the Evo forum... no latte drinkers here!) I drink the plain "coffee-flavored coffee" at $1.70 a cup myself - straight up, with an olive (where available)!
I think there are less Evo folks simply because you don't see the MoCo spending megabucks to promote Evos, since they don't make them anymore... nor on Shovels, Pans, or Knuckles either... but there appears to still be a good number of smart people left who appreciate good engineering, and who understand what they can buy and tweak for significantly less capital outlay than buying a new stock twinkie.
I also agree on the Chevy 350 small-block... I had a Blazer with a 350 in the olden tymes. It was bulletproof, like the Evo. A version is still manufactured, but now it's the "5.7 liter V-8". My current 2005 Avalanche has the 5.3 liter V8, 290HP, and runs very strong - 90 MPH feels like it's standing still!.
Oh, and IMHO I think that "Evo Classic Forum" sounds MUCH nicer than "Not Made Anymore Forum" or "Tired Iron Forum" or "Prices In The Pooper Forum"! (I love that thread...) But my bike is a "classic" only because it's a 95 FLHT(P), which coincidentally was the Electra Glide's 30th anniversary. Big deal... that and $4 will get you a cup of latte at Starbucks (Oh sorry... this is the Evo forum... no latte drinkers here!) I drink the plain "coffee-flavored coffee" at $1.70 a cup myself - straight up, with an olive (where available)!
Last edited by NorthGeorgiaHawg; Nov 29, 2009 at 03:42 PM.
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From: Ohio
Personally, I don't care what HD has done since 1999. '98 EVO Road Glide, 'til death do us part.
I don't think I'll spend anymore time around the twinkie folks. It's just too irritating. Ommmmmmm
Road Warrior
Joined: Mar 2007
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From: Cave Creek, AZ
I like mine the way it is an evo and I'll have her till I can't ride anymore. I for one will say thanks to all of you who helped me get knowledge on careing for my bike and working on her myself. I like old Fords and old Chevy's too, and hopefully I can find one sometime soon, to work on and find time to drive it when I'm not on my bike.
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From: Hooterville, Fl.
I like the Evo section being small. Except for my posts here, plenty of good info to be learned without all the bs. Never liked crowds and love living in a one red light town. Don't go to Daytona 'cause it is just too dang crowded.
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From: Qualicum Beach, B.C. CAN
[QUOTE=wideglide95th;5909918]I like the Evo section being small. Except for my posts here, plenty of good info to be learned without all the bs. QUOTE]
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Who was it that had all the 80 spoke wheel info???
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Who was it that had all the 80 spoke wheel info???
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From: South Carolina
This thread sounds like what Shovelhead riders were saying, about 20 years ago....I can still remember my Shovelhead riding buddies saying "Hear no Evo, See no Evo"...
But even back then, there was no shortage of low mileage riders, master trinket installers (I really like that one) and posers...
But even back then, there was no shortage of low mileage riders, master trinket installers (I really like that one) and posers...
