Exhausts: My head hurts
With the input provided I believe that I'm down to a decision between a 2 into 1 set-up, or keeping either my entire existing exhaust as is, if it performs well, or adding slip ons if something additional needs to be done.
I love the sound of True Duals, but not enough to pay a performance price for them.
Mike (MKGuitar), Lots of good comments and thought offered, thank you.
I lean a lot in your direction but due to compression tests by myself, then by my local indie who also did a leakdown test for me it does appear that next years mods will include at least some head work, and due to a 125 psi reading on both barrels he said that it would not hurt to hone & re-ring, or if necssary go up to the next over-size.
This is where it goes a little deeper, while we are in the area he said Lifters and Pushrods, pretty much a given, from this site a metal breather gear sounds right as well, new bearings and gaskets also a given, and at this point my indie said "Look, EVO's like higher compression and I'm recommending 10:1. They do not sacrifice reliability, or driveability and they will do well with your total change package, and along with it an Andrew 27 cam matches up with these changes, and again this is very streetable and reliable."
So how do you determine if your exhaust system is a good match to your bike? What clues should I look for when evaluating the entire package? Multiple dyno runs could get expensive.
miacycles, read the RB Racings info with great interest and it's not yet out of the question depending on my stock system (Though I'm a sucker for Duals.) What is the sound level for these? I suspect that anything done to change (Tone down) the sound is a performance killer so as they arrive is probably as they should be run.
Bagger, Love you bike, really nice job. Your solution intriques me. I tried looking up Propipe and ended up on the Vance & Hines site. Did not really see how you did your pipes. You "said" H-D stock exhaust with Propipe muffler. I'm starting to think that you used an entire 2 into 1 system, then hung the cut off left side stock pipe down and put a slip on onto that "Ghost" pipe. Correct?
When it's all said and done I am wrestling with how much do I give up by keeping the stock system, or by using the stock pipes, with performance Slip-ons. And as noted in my message to Mike, how do I tell that there is a need for something other than my opened up stock mufflers?
I love the sound of True Duals, but not enough to pay a performance price for them."
If you love the sound of True Duals and don't want to suffer a performance issue, you might want to consider the MGS True Duals. They provide a pretty significant power gain and give you the looks and sound benefits of True Duals. Hope you find the right exhaust. Good luck and enjoy the ride.
Welded a angle bracket and mounted the left pipe to a bracket off the starter for added strength and third season coming up, will be honest with you, had Rinehart TD's on it and they sound alittle better at normal riding than the Propipe but performance goes hands down to the 2-1 and wide open goes to the Propipe in sound.
They make a D&D 2-1 Fatcat and a Thunderheader with ghost pipes but selling a kidney is needed for that purchase
I did run across your site while doing my homework. These look nice, but my bike is a 1989, your site states that the product is for bikes 1995 and up, and I'll admit that I have some confusion about what I can use.
What I think I know"
I can use all pipes and slip-ons for products listed for 1984 to 1995.
I can use slip-ons for 1995-2009 if I cut a ring off my header pipes
I MAY be able to use complete systems for 1995-2009 which include replacing the header pipes to the newer model years.
If this is true I don't understand why the ads do not state can be used from 1984 onward when they are offering new header pipe systems, or if some mods are required, why they do not state that "With some additional modifications these pipes can be used on ....Blah, blah, blah."
My hope is that someone with intimate knowledge will chime in and verify or clear this up. I'm sure that I am not the only one confused by this.
Thanks.
I can't answer your query about advertisers. If you want a 2-into-1 buy a SuperMeg! You may have to use a different clamp at the trans door mount, but you should be fine. I used a couple of stainless hose clamps.
I did run across your site while doing my homework. These look nice, but my bike is a 1989, your site states that the product is for bikes 1995 and up, and I'll admit that I have some confusion about what I can use.
What I think I know"
I can use all pipes and slip-ons for products listed for 1984 to 1995.
I can use slip-ons for 1995-2009 if I cut a ring off my header pipes
I MAY be able to use complete systems for 1995-2009 which include replacing the header pipes to the newer model years.
If this is true I don't understand why the ads do not state can be used from 1984 onward when they are offering new header pipe systems, or if some mods are required, why they do not state that "With some additional modifications these pipes can be used on ....Blah, blah, blah."
My hope is that someone with intimate knowledge will chime in and verify or clear this up. I'm sure that I am not the only one confused by this.
Thanks.
Rash,
You seem to have a pretty good idea of what is correct. What you think you know is what I also think I know (can't call it 100% truth as not sure on every model, but from experience seems to be true on all of them). For your particular bike, you would need to modify the transmission brackets and you would be good to go. Hope this helps. Reason we don't state earlier than 1995 is that there usually is some small modifications to make them fit, but they will usually fit.
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
RB Racing makes kore than one pipe for most applications. You can get a loud one (more for competition)
or one that is (more for street) quieter. Talk to them they can help










