E85, anyone?
Tourer
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From: Indianapolis, IN
http://www.ethanolproducer.com/artic...r-motorcycles/
33% gain in HP? That interests me for sure.
33% gain in HP? That interests me for sure.
I would also like to understand the relationship between the HP increase and torque. Could the stock tranny and other important stuff (I'm still learning so don't make fun of me) handle the increased power. I've seen some posts on here that talk about having to change gears and cams with increases in HP.
Road Master
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From: Beautiful SW Missouri Ozark Mountain Country
That is interesting. I would like to understand if the conversion kit requires you to run just E85. While it is available a lot of places, some of the smaller towns I ride through don't have it and I would hate to be stuck somewhere.
I would also like to understand the relationship between the HP increase and torque. Could the stock tranny and other important stuff (I'm still learning so don't make fun of me) handle the increased power. I've seen some posts on here that talk about having to change gears and cams with increases in HP.
I would also like to understand the relationship between the HP increase and torque. Could the stock tranny and other important stuff (I'm still learning so don't make fun of me) handle the increased power. I've seen some posts on here that talk about having to change gears and cams with increases in HP.
Flex fuel is exactly why I say you'd need an ecm and efi. The ecm would need to remap on demand to run the 2 different fuels. I would say it's definitely possible to run just E-85, but not both in our old Evo bikes.
Tourer
Joined: Jan 2012
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From: Kingston, Ontario
I only use supper in my bike to avoid any ethanol (our lower grades can contain up to 10%). From what I understand (from past posts) ethanol attracts moisture and is harmful to engines and systems not designed for its use . There was an article in AI regarding this last month I believe.
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Cruiser
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From: Ontario, Canada
I only use supper in my bike to avoid any ethanol (our lower grades can contain up to 10%). From what I understand (from past posts) ethanol attracts moisture and is harmful to engines and systems not designed for its use . There was an article in AI regarding this last month I believe.
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From: Upstate New York
It's the same here in upstate NY. it's E10 or stay home.
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From:
I posted this in another post.
My healthy 04RK engine is 10.5:1 and I have to run 91 octane in order for it to run with out detonation. But on Hot days it will detonate pretty bad just by a slight little roll of the throttle.
So I tried a splash of e85 just to see how it reacted. I put in a 1/2 gallon of e85 then topped of the tank with 91 octane, about 4.2 gallons. My engine now runs better then ever. It feels alot more powerfull and runs cooler with no more detonation. I can't imagine what it would do on 100% e85. But I will leave that for my 12:1 BBC Chevelle.
My healthy 04RK engine is 10.5:1 and I have to run 91 octane in order for it to run with out detonation. But on Hot days it will detonate pretty bad just by a slight little roll of the throttle.
So I tried a splash of e85 just to see how it reacted. I put in a 1/2 gallon of e85 then topped of the tank with 91 octane, about 4.2 gallons. My engine now runs better then ever. It feels alot more powerfull and runs cooler with no more detonation. I can't imagine what it would do on 100% e85. But I will leave that for my 12:1 BBC Chevelle.
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Road Warrior
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From: Senoia, Ga., by way of Miami, Fl..
The thing to remember is that drag racing has been using alcohol for years. There is big benifit to performance. Like mentioned above, it is cooler burning which will allow more compression and timing. So, yes, more power can be had with it. However, I cant see how simply changing to ethanol will magicaly give more power since its got a lower BTU than gas.. In the "real life" world for normal consumers there is no bennifit. Ethanol costs more per mile driven, absorbs moisture, acts as a solvent, and deteriorates hoses that arent designed for it.. It does burn cleaner, but running proper mixtures and not loading your engine up will keep any combustion chamber relatively clean.. Want clean, propane and CNG are the fuels of choice... Gotta find a place to put the tanks though.. Ethanol is a total scam for the general population..
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From: Frozelandia, Minnysota
I only use supper in my bike to avoid any ethanol (our lower grades can contain up to 10%). From what I understand (from past posts) ethanol attracts moisture and is harmful to engines and systems not designed for its use . There was an article in AI regarding this last month I believe.
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