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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Been wanting one of these, http://www.ebay.com/itm/COMP-Cams-V-...7282b0&vxp=mtr, but failed to read the fine print. How I found out that these are second's or return's, was, I work down the street from where these are made. So I get smart & call & a sales rep says they can pull one off the shelf, & have it waiting for me. I say's, Cool, how much, & he quotes a price , without tax, $20.00 more than what they sell on fleabay. I ask what's up & he proceeds to inform me what these are on ebay. Seconds & returns. Their spring set's are new, but not the cams. What would YOU do? Buy a defective , or returned, cam, or take pay the extra cash, & get a factory fresh? Think I just answered my own question. Anyway, buyer beware! Ya just might get what you ask for! Ride safe,
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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For 20 bucks, no brainer.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 08:25 PM
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You can buy a VThunder 5000 series without a gear for a really decent price, I wouldn't get a 5005 anyway, falls off real quick in the rpm range. Heads will need valve springs to hold the lift and a shame to waste springs on a cam that hits the wall early.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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You can buy a VThunder 5000 series without a gear for a really decent price, I wouldn't get a 5005 anyway, falls off real quick in the rpm range. Heads will need valve springs to hold the lift and a shame to waste springs on a cam that hits the wall early.
You have provided me with some of the info about this cam. I've read where you had this cam & said it faded out about 5000rpms. I hardly ever get over 4500, & thats passing a semi & I'm doing bout 90-100mph. I really like the torque my EV13 does, & I believe with a compression bump of 9.5:1, head work & the right cam it will pull even harder & don't wan't a cam with a lot of duration & have talked to a few shops, Bob Wood , Kirby Apathy about head work & such. What rpm range to you ride? http://tuneyourharley.com/gallery/v/other/97fxd/ This guy here , Mullen is his last name, used one on a FXD, I believe it is, & did 1/4 mile in like 12.20. { This bike would run the 1/4 mile at 12.20 @ 109MPH and there was another .2 seconds in the time because of my slow 60 foot times. This was my wife's bike, so I was not about to abuse it.} From another forum, yrs back. Not being a ***, but trying to get as much info as I can before I spend the cash.Ride safe,
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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The 5005 would be like a EV13 on steroids, should giddy up hard in the lower rpm's with 9.5-1 comp, very quiet cam. I ride with a Jeckyl-Hyde approach, run normal conditions 2 up and fully loaded with 3 day trips. Strip the white bike down to solo style and ride like my head is on fire with the boys and not intimidated by light bikes, that is why my riding style will go deep into the rpms's

If 4500 rpm's is your ceiling then the 5005 is perfect, I just link head work and springs to a engine than can pop off 6000 rpm's on command, that is why I stated the wall of the 5005 and I had no problems selling the 5005. PS: Bobby Woods is going to tell you to buy the W6 or W6H
 
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 11:07 PM
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Thank's for the feedback, Bagger. Kinda thought that's the way you might ride. Still not totally convinced , bout the 5005, but the more I think about it, the better I like it. Kirby recommended this one, out of about 4or5. Said if I didnt mind getting in the cases & maybe doing some clearance work, this is the one for my style. I'm a longtime, machinist & did mold work for Dynagear, years ago & got pretty good with a dremel & a dynafile, so clearancing around a boss is no big deal. Yeah, Bob recommended the W6H & started talking compression releases, so I had to back off that one. If I'm gonna put in comp releases, I'm gonna have bout, 4 5/8 worth of stroke & 3 5/8 of bore, under me. Got one more phone call to make before I commit. Called John Sachs, the other day but he hadn't come in yet, but I'll try again, next week. This all won't take place until after Christmas, anyway, so I'm in no real hurry. Take my time & do it right. Thank's again for the feedback.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 06:09 AM
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LowriderHarold, I would appreciate you keeping us(me) informed on the recommendations you get from these builders. thanks
 
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 07:19 AM
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LowriderHarold, I would appreciate you keeping us(me) informed on the recommendations you get from these builders. thanks
Will do. Wealth of info on this site & a lot of knowledgeable people here. Couple of other's that were recommended:
EVL 3000 set @ 9.0-1 or EVL 3010 set @ 9.5-1. Your not going to get 80hp with any of these, but they will pull hard on the bottom, but suggested the EVL-5005, over these, but may be some clearance issues with this one, which is no big deal. On thing that I've learned , from all this, is do your homework. What might work for one rider, may not be worth a crap to the next . We all have different riding styles.
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LowriderHarold
Thank's for the feedback, Bagger. Kinda thought that's the way you might ride. Still not totally convinced , bout the 5005, but the more I think about it, the better I like it. Kirby recommended this one, out of about 4or5. Said if I didnt mind getting in the cases & maybe doing some clearance work, this is the one for my style. I'm a longtime, machinist & did mold work for Dynagear, years ago & got pretty good with a dremel & a dynafile, so clearancing around a boss is no big deal. Yeah, Bob recommended the W6H & started talking compression releases, so I had to back off that one. If I'm gonna put in comp releases, I'm gonna have bout, 4 5/8 worth of stroke & 3 5/8 of bore, under me. Got one more phone call to make before I commit. Called John Sachs, the other day but he hadn't come in yet, but I'll try again, next week. This all won't take place until after Christmas, anyway, so I'm in no real hurry. Take my time & do it right. Thank's again for the feedback.
Ride safe,
Harold
Ya, the 5005 has a nice design with early intake closing, good lift and lower duration that is (All In) in lower rpm's. You will have no problems with clearancing the case for a cam with your experiance, did mine with a die grinder and cutoff wheel about the size of a rotating cam lobe, can see the machined area in the case and smooth it out for clearance. Lifter blocks need checked for not bottoming out at full cam lobe lift, the 5005 had plenty of room in the lifters.

Contacting the most of the Big Dogs I see, can learn alot from these guys. I'll also post John Sachs email address for that contact
 
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Old Nov 3, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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Would appreciate the email addy, Bagger. I can get more into detail in that way , verses a call. You can message it to me, if ya dont wan't to post it, or lay it out here. Thank's.
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