they are radical cycle in desmoines iowa. and the one's that check it . is the house of horsepower. with the 95 kit they are getting a 100 h.p and about 105 t.q. when they fine tune my friend they fine tune. and them and hypermformace are building some monster motors.they take their dyno machine all over the midwest.

 

House of Horsepower does the tuning and the dyno?
Got a # they can be reached at? That's not too far for me!

 

Yeah I know them both. I live in Des Moines, And I can tell you from experience I've delt with both of them. Bob at HOH is a good guy he knows his sh*t. He did Did my Dad's Cams in his RK and some work on my RK awhile back. But getting 84hp out a a 88" and keeping the TQ up in the 88's is way far out their man. If your getting 84Hp their is noway your getting the same in TQ. It's just not going to happen.
Also the 95"ers that they are building that they say are 100hp & 105TQ are all with Baseily Head work and 10.5:1 compression Wiseco pistons, I know for a fact Bob did my engine back in 2004. 100hp & 105 TQ is not going to happen without doing head work. Just ask anyone that builds engine's. Hell even Kaliforna Curt or kurk what ever his name is at Radical Cycle he'll even tell you that, and I wouldn't let Him touch my Bike.
But if Bob at HOH say's your Bike is an 88" with no head work and stock compression congrats to you man because their are alot of guy's that have done the 95" alond with cams and no head work and they are lucky to see the #'s that you have. Congrats to you sport2003.............

 

I stand corrected on the my cylinderboring reply,as Ishould have put my goggles on before typing.
You can bring that to 105" via Wiesco, or J&E manufactures a piston that can increase cubic inch to 107", without case boring. Absolutely no issues whatsoever, for shops that can perform that in-house, entry level, engine building procedure.

 

There are a couple of new cams out that we have been using that make great torque and one of the Harley mechanics that does a lot of baggers in NY uses a couple of these cams a week now and his guys love the power, 105/98 T&H on 103" w/o head work. Figured backwards that would be 98/91 on 96"'s. This is the RR525 gear drive cam. If chain is desired the new Andrews 54 will give similar results with slightly less torque and a little more engine temperature. These #'s are with decent pipes and a/c. If you want to use the RR525 gear drives I have the SE billet cam plate to replace the flimsey stock unit or I have the R&R plates that is even better.

 

What exactly is the RR525 cam? Do they make it in chain driven?
What brand is RR?
Who sells them?

 

I have them, right now they only come in gear drive.www.rrcycles.com

 

04 RoadKing: Here is my Dyno graph of my 88 with stock heads, Cycle shack slip-ons, tw-6G, stock compressionand pciii = 80hp and 84tq!! And this was tuned by a rice burner outfit - first harley they ever tuned - 04 FLSTCI

It's hard to see the torque curve but look at the numbers at the bottom.



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84tq at almost 6k RPM, on you better be on a straight away for 2 miles. Get that 84tq down at 2000RPM and then you won't be bench racing.

 

Its really fun to seat back and read all the different answers onyour question..My 07 Heritage is 12 monthsold,done only SERT with dyno tune, rush pipes and SE airbox andKN filter and syn 3 in all 3 holes.Done at 1k,main reason, help with heat.
Last summer was 215-220on trips instead of 240-245 on 90* days, (peroil temp dip stick).
Stock numbers on dyno was 66hp and 80tq on my 96in B,
After above installeditDynoed -71.5hp and 83.9tq. My dealer and two other tuners I talked to said this was averageforstock stage 1 96in B motor....
So your Number arenormal in our area.
After dyno the tq line from 3k-6k rpmwas 4#s to 10#s higher than stock increasing with rpm and peaked at 3k-4k.
Keeping over 80#s from 2200rpmto 4600rpm..Not a big difference inMax output numbers, but it is a lotstronger inthis range
Stock tq was80#sbetween (3000rpm - 3500rpm) thenfalling steady to 54#s at 6k

I am now thinking about bolt in cam install likeu, I have read and read aboutall the different kinds and keeping in mind I will probably only do just the cams and maybe gowith V&H bslongs.. but will doboth at same time.
My son just did thestage1 with sert and V&H BR2-2 and204 SE cams. He got 80hp and 94#s tq @ 3.5k onhis dyno on otherwise stock 07duece.
I know that there are others that have gotten higher #s (both stage 1 and with cams added) than that.
But after reading for months on the subject of dyno tunes I have read articles from different experts in the dyno field and they say thattheir aredifferent waysand settings that will net differentresults with different tuners.
Llike do you use STD or SAE, What Smoothing rate,Tire pressure,Which gear, Temp of motor, Humidity and of course the turner himself.
An article I read from Dr. Dyno said and showedwith his tuning chartsa tuner couldgetbetween 3-10% or moreHP and Tq byusingdifferent conditions and or settings mentioned above. He alsostated that their are what he called HAPPYDyno'sthat alwaysget better numbers. So it seems to me that when some people talk aboutthe Numbers they goton theirdyno tune, theycould be higher than the same bike and equally good tuner at a different shop because of all the differentways toset up for tuning.. We used to call it comparing apples to oranges at work....