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I have a 2003 softail and I put synthetic in everything, ( engine ,tranny and primary). Since changeing I have noticed that it really "bangs" when it goes into first gear and it shifts hard going into third. Any sugestions as to what it may be and if it might be related to the synthetic oil? Thanks Henry
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What type, brand and weight did you put in the transmission?
I have always used Redline MTL or Royal Purple Synchromax as both have manual transmission additives to work with the synchronizers and make shfting easier. I haven't had this problem, but a friend of mine on a anniversary Deuce had something similar (difficult shifting) and had put in some type of 50W 'Synthetic Power Shift Transmission Fluid' and put pack HD oil and the shifting cleared up right away. I couldn't (and still haven't) convinced him to try Redline or Royal Purple and think his oil sales friend just sold him the wrong stuff...
I have always used Redline MTL or Royal Purple Synchromax as both have manual transmission additives to work with the synchronizers and make shfting easier. I haven't had this problem, but a friend of mine on a anniversary Deuce had something similar (difficult shifting) and had put in some type of 50W 'Synthetic Power Shift Transmission Fluid' and put pack HD oil and the shifting cleared up right away. I couldn't (and still haven't) convinced him to try Redline or Royal Purple and think his oil sales friend just sold him the wrong stuff...
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Assumption here: You're putting 20w-50 motor oil in all three holes. Yeah, HD sez it's OK, but some trannies don't seem to like it. Drain the engine oil outta the tranny and replace it with a bonafide gear oil. If it still shifts into first & third too hard, it needs a good lookin' at. If third clears up and it still bangs overly hard into first, try adjusting the clutch per the manual.
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Tx I put in the screamin eagle syn 3 20w50 in everything. I do plan to adjust my clutch when I pull the primary case here soon. Putting on a new chrome one. I know the first gear clunk is normal for harley and I think by the clutch adjustment that should help that. Thanks for the help so far. Also could someone help me with the correct tension for the primary chain and how i would check that.
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change the screaming eagle out of the tranny..if you want to use synthetic use amsoil or another synthetic gear oil not 20w50. harley likes to recomend their synthetic in every hole , but most people have found that screaming eagle in the tranny is not the best.
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Well I hate to admit that I have also had 2nd thought's on the 20w-50 in the trans, it appear's that after riding about 1500 mile's on the 20w-50 in the trans the shifting has gotten a little worse than when it was first put in, poss shear down, I dunno know but I am going back to the 75w-90 syn gear oil the next time to compare, and to tell the truth it's probally better anyway.
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change the screaming eagle out of the tranny..if you want to use synthetic use amsoil or another synthetic gear oil not 20w50. harley likes to recomend their synthetic in every hole , but most people have found that screaming eagle in the tranny is not the best.
change the screaming eagle out of the tranny..if you want to use synthetic use amsoil or another synthetic gear oil not 20w50. harley likes to recomend their synthetic in every hole , but most people have found that screaming eagle in the tranny is not the best.
We got into a vocal discussion over beers about this... There were three groups.. Lighter weight, 20W50 Motorcycle Oil and 75W90 gear oil....David
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i just got back from getting the oil changed in my 04 RK Classic. i went amsoil 20w-50 in the motor, 10w40 in the chaincase and 75w-90 "severe gear" in the tranny. shifts like butter. big improvement!!!! i suggest this to anyone switching to synthetic.