Exhaust System Topics New and old exhaust system discussions. Fitment issues to sound bites and suggestions. Post them here.

True or False on FI

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 24, 2008 | 06:42 PM
  #1  
Fats4life's Avatar
Fats4life
Thread Starter
|
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
Default True or False on FI

Ok is it&nbsp\\;true that you can replace the exaust only and the computer will adjust the fuel mixture or false? I heard if it is just for sound YES, sound and performance NO. Any replys please. Other words do you have to have new fuel mgnt. with new&nbsp\\;pipes?&nbsp\\;I have an '07 FatBoy. Thnaks, David.
 
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2008 | 07:33 PM
  #2  
Tinkermc's Avatar
Tinkermc
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,972
Likes: 1
From: King William, VA.
Default RE: True or False on FI

no adjustment needed if you change pipes or breather if you do both you need help
 
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 01:09 PM
  #3  
Doc 1's Avatar
Doc 1
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,304
Likes: 31
From: Florida
Default RE: True or False on FI

+1 with Tinkermc
 
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 01:58 PM
  #4  
glens's Avatar
glens
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,609
Likes: 1
From: Indy area
Default RE: True or False on FI

Sorry, but at least in the case of the current-generation EFI I got to disagree. Changing either end by itself will change the flow dynamics from stock. If you by chance change the dynamics linearly over the operating range of the engine you would be okay. But I do not see how that would be possible. Maybe 1 chance out of hundreds of tries. If the change in dynamics is non-linear then the auto-tuning will be wrong for the open-loop operation.

In their 07 catalog, H-D says their replacement mufflers, at least some of them for the touring lineup anyway, do not require remapping, but all of their intake parts, as I recall, did call for a remap of the ECU. What does that tell you? Maybe their EPA-certified mufflers effect a linear change in flow dynamics, or at least close enough, but the intake stuff alters them sufficiently to require attention.

If the mufflers flow more only at lower rpm ranges, then you will merely be richer than you need up higher. Same for the intake, but that is most unlikely as the butterfly itself is the limiting factor there.

If either flows better only at higher rpm ranges, the autotuning will not provide the necessary extra fuel there.

From an engineering standpoint, I would not do it for either case. From an experience standpoint, just touring Rush 2.0s cause weird artifacts open-loop.
 
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 02:05 PM
  #5  
Doc 1's Avatar
Doc 1
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,304
Likes: 31
From: Florida
Default RE: True or False on FI

Your experience?&nbsp\\;
 
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 03:00 PM
  #6  
glens's Avatar
glens
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,609
Likes: 1
From: Indy area
Default RE: True or False on FI

Running just the Rush slip-ons with no engine management changes, for somewhat over 1000 miles. The tune moved around on me in ways I did not care for.
 
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2008 | 09:30 PM
  #7  
KBFXDLI's Avatar
KBFXDLI
Big Kahuna HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 23,881
Likes: 34
From: USA
Default RE: True or False on FI

If you are concerned about it just go get the dealer stage1 download.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bdavis
Touring Models
18
Jun 26, 2012 12:08 PM
TKDKurt
Sportster Models
8
Aug 10, 2011 04:43 PM
RPS1981
Touring Models
12
Feb 3, 2011 08:18 AM
homerandpooh
Exhaust System Topics
5
Dec 13, 2008 10:58 AM
ray1970
Sportster Models
2
Apr 28, 2007 02:58 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:50 AM.

story-0
6 Weirdest Harley-Davidsons Ever Sold to the Public

Slideshow: From military-inspired singles to scooters and three-wheel utility vehicles, these Harleys took the company far outside its comfort zone.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-02 18:34:10


VIEW MORE
story-1
7 Times Harley-Davidson Chucked Tradition Out the Window

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson built its reputation on nostalgia, but every so often, the company took a hard left turn into the future.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 11:18:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-6
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-7
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE