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OK.....I have tons of questions and Im sure someone already posted a thread for this but here I am just startin so here goes. I have Street Bob and was interested in puttin a 95" kit to my bike. I already have the Vance and Hines Big Radius pipes as well as Arlen Ness filter. I also have the Power Commander for tuning. I talked to my local dealer and they have 2 kits.....1 with cams, 1 without. But according to the catalog they are both 95". Ive also looked at Edelbrock and a local custom shop. Edelbrock has a kit where it has everything plus downloads for what I already have...i.e my filter, pipes and power commander. My local shop has his own set up which I have no idea what he uses. OK so far I havent asked a question, but am really confused. What is basically the difference between say the 2 kits from HD? The one with cams and the one without? Are we talkin torque? HP? Money? Also, does anybody know of any set ups that work and work real well? My goal is to have a good amount of toruqe and horsepower for them long hauls and when I have my wifey on the back. Anyone?
The differance in the two kits is the cams. The basic 95" kit is cylinders, pistons, rings, and gaskets. It used to include an air filter and pipes, but I havn't looked at the new catalog.
If you really want those extra cubes to work for you, get new cams. It's worth every penny. I would probably suggest cams over cubes, if you could only pick one.
I agree with Bob, since you already have the pcIII and pipes, etc. get the cams now, but pick ones that will work good with the 88 and the 95. That is what I am doing. I'm doing the work myself to save some major bucks with the help of some good folks on this forum. Then next year I will start thinking about the 95 kit (which I also plan to do myself).
There are better places to look for 95" upgrades, just cams, or about anything "performance" than your dealer. Not only can you get more for your money elsewhere, you can likely get better as well.
I have a 2005 FLSTSCI that I had a 95" kit with 211 cams installed by the dealer. I am very happy with it. The increase in low end torque is impressive but where it really shines is at highway speeds. I also have a Screamin' Eagle six speed gear set and at 75 mph, you just twist it and go! It will pull hard up through 100 mph.
Have been considering the same for my 05 RKC.
I had understood that a dealer install will not effect the warranty. Any correct info on this?
Also, no one mentioned head work. Several people I talked to recommend porting along with the cam install. Is that something to consider?
Your warranty should not be affected. I would do the porting with the 95 build, but that's just me.
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Have been considering the same for my 05 RKC.
I had understood that a dealer install will not effect the warranty. Any correct info on this?
Also, no one mentioned head work. Several people I talked to recommend porting along with the cam install. Is that something to consider?
Taking a good hard look at a 95 inch bolt on kit with no cam or head porting you are looking at very small increase in both hp&tq. A 95 inch engine with a small cam and head work will give you huge increase's over the SE kit. If I have to choose between a 95 kit or head porting on a a engine I would go the porting route as I know what you type of gains you will see. The 95 inch kit alone will make you in the 75 hp range and 85 tq . Again these are from what I have seen on the dozen or so bikes that I was able to test with only big bore kits installed, and a stage I kit. All in all not very impressive.
No looking at our kit for example as I cannot really give you info on other kits as each porter will have his on style and package. But a kit that runs very well and will make the 100/100 mark with a proper exhaust system and proper tune. WE start with a flat top piston, and a andrews 37g ( most kits bike weight & riding style may change cam) with a compression ratio of 9.8.1 and a CNC ported head will run very well and offer to the end user a bike that runs the way it should have left the factory.
When looking for a kit or a shop that wil going to build you a kit they should be asking you plenty of questions. Here are a few that we ask before I start to tell the customer the type of kit that will best suit his needs.
Type of bike, amount of two up riding, riding style, region where he or she lives, total rider weight, and two up total weight, end result they are looking to achieve.
The 95 route is a great way to go. But make sure where ever you have your heads done, or build done for that matter that those questions are asked and answered to your satisfaction, if not look else where for a porter or builder. As we ask all those questions and more as we put together complete packages where all parts work together. The best ported head is not going to help you if there are mis matched parts in the build. All parts need to wokr together other wise you are wasting your money . Approx 40-45% of the builds we do in house or sell a complete package to are builds that went wrong for one reason or another. For the most part it could have been avoided for only a few reasons.
This is the #1 reason we see, Customer worrying two much about a peak hp number on a dyno sheet
#2 the builder did not listen to the customer/ talked them into a package that did not suit them
#3 Customer failed to give enough info to builder, see #2
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