mlling piston domes
#1
mlling piston domes
I have a set of wiseco domed pistons that I want to have local machine shop cut down to lower the cc's so I can achieve my desired compression ratio. Is there an aprox measurement for how much cut per cc. Like when you get your heads milled its approx 6-7 thou cut it equals 1 cc. THX
#2
I have a set of wiseco domed pistons that I want to have local machine shop cut down to lower the cc's so I can achieve my desired compression ratio. Is there an aprox measurement for how much cut per cc. Like when you get your heads milled its approx 6-7 thou cut it equals 1 cc. THX
First and most time consuming is to actually mock up, with top ring and some grease to seal the chambe, install the head wtihout gasket and, using a buretee and ATF measure the chamber volume. The before/after chamber volume will verify the actual dome volume; they do vary from the manufacturers spec. Then, mill off .001", re-measure and you will know how much to mill to hit your target.
Easier way is to determin the alloy, i.e.., 4032, etc. get the weight per cc and go from there. For instance, 4032 alloy weighs 2.8 grams/cc. So, if 2cc was needed to be removed from a 4032 alloy piston, you would weigh the piston, shave off a bit, say .001"-.002", reweight the piston; keep shaving until you have removed 5.6 grams (2cc x 2.8gms=5.6gms)
I don't know any easier way to do it.
#3
Plus 1 hear on your input
This is a good way to remove excess dome without having to re-cc piston: Mill a small amount and re-weight piston until total reduction is reached.
First and most time consuming is to actually mock up, with top ring and some grease to seal the chambe, install the head wtihout gasket and, using a buretee and ATF measure the chamber volume. The before/after chamber volume will verify the actual dome volume; they do vary from the manufacturers spec. Then, mill off .001", re-measure and you will know how much to mill to hit your target.
Easier way is to determin the alloy, i.e.., 4032, etc. get the weight per cc and go from there. For instance, 4032 alloy weighs 2.8 grams/cc. So, if 2cc was needed to be removed from a 4032 alloy piston, you would weigh the piston, shave off a bit, say .001"-.002", reweight the piston; keep shaving until you have removed 5.6 grams (2cc x 2.8gms=5.6gms)
I don't know any easier way to do it.[/quote]
This is a good way to remove excess dome without having to re-cc piston: Mill a small amount and re-weight piston until total reduction is reached.
First and most time consuming is to actually mock up, with top ring and some grease to seal the chambe, install the head wtihout gasket and, using a buretee and ATF measure the chamber volume. The before/after chamber volume will verify the actual dome volume; they do vary from the manufacturers spec. Then, mill off .001", re-measure and you will know how much to mill to hit your target.
Easier way is to determin the alloy, i.e.., 4032, etc. get the weight per cc and go from there. For instance, 4032 alloy weighs 2.8 grams/cc. So, if 2cc was needed to be removed from a 4032 alloy piston, you would weigh the piston, shave off a bit, say .001"-.002", reweight the piston; keep shaving until you have removed 5.6 grams (2cc x 2.8gms=5.6gms)
I don't know any easier way to do it.[/quote]
Last edited by DRAGO'S BIKE WORKS; 12-14-2011 at 01:28 PM.
#4
I have a set of wiseco domed pistons that I want to have local machine shop cut down to lower the cc's so I can achieve my desired compression ratio. Is there an aprox measurement for how much cut per cc. Like when you get your heads milled its approx 6-7 thou cut it equals 1 cc. THX
Call the shop and I can give you the dedicated gram weight per cc for them.
Scott
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HARLEY-DAVIDSON SPEED & SERVICE CENTER
5225 SOUTH MAIN ST., MUNNSVILLE, N.Y. 13409
Sales/Support 315-495-6650
www.hillsidecycle.com
Walk-in Retail Showroom
Complete H-D Machine Shop
Case & cylinder boring
Complete Cylinder Head Shop
High-Performance Engine Kits
Crank Rebuilding
Direct Link & PowerVision Tuning
Goodson HD Tooling Manufacturer
Maxton Mile World Record
4500 sq ft. facility
OVER 35 YEARS OF H-D ENGINE BUILDING.
See us on Facebook.
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