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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 04 rkcrr
My buddy has me talked into going with a bigger cam and at least 10-1 cr. Going to talk the man saturday to get some prices. I guess he buys alot of 110 and 103 se heads and reworks and flows them, Buddy says he can get them for a pretty good price should be able to make up the differance in the price of the new cam. Couple of questions, Does se make piston that can be used in a 98" ? Any suggestions on what cam to use. My buddy said I should go with atleast a 570 lift and something that closes between 45 to 48. What do you all think?
Your buddy's original suggestion was more cam and more compression, no increase in displacement; is that the plan? The only way you get 10:1 compression with 88" is domed pistons, like the SE 10.25 piston. JMHO, but, in that configuration, cams with a 40*-42* close would work better. If you go to 95", there are other options.

No, SE does not make pistons for the 3.932" (98") bore. The SE 110 heads have oval chambers, not the bathtub chambers of the OEM TC88/96 heads. Be careful to match the pistons to whatever head you decide to use.

Suggest selecting a cam first and building around the cam.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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Your understanding is correct; however, the OP says he is porting the heads, so it doesn't make any difference which casting he starts with. After porting, both castings will be the same. the only advantage to swap would be the lift capability of the later heads which can be addressed by the head porter on the early castings.
Gotcha! That was my suspicion but didn't know for certain. I'm always trying to learn. Thanks!
 
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 01:13 AM
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no djl, doing 98 cubes. More than likely, I will be having my heads done to fit what ever cam I decide to use. He does have some se 103" heads that he has ported, polished and flowed to match differant cams, I believe they are T-man cams, but I don't have the specific numbers. I will find out more on saturday. Just wanting some cam suggestions. Just looking around and 98" pistons seem to be priced quite abit more than 95". Bye the way thanks for all the advice.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 06:10 AM
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No, Harley does offer a 98" piston.
We do.
We have Wiseco manufacture a piston/gasket kit for us, for 88-98"", and another for 96-107".
You bud is thinking about a 110" head on your 98"er??
Not a good idea, as it'll slurp all the low end torque off that build.
Your OEM casting, re-worked would be much better.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 09:22 AM
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No, Harley does offer a 98" piston. Scott
What's the PN on the Harley 98" piston?
 
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Originally Posted by 04 rkcrr
no djl, doing 98 cubes. More than likely, I will be having my heads done to fit what ever cam I decide to use. He does have some se 103" heads that he has ported, polished and flowed to match differant cams, I believe they are T-man cams, but I don't have the specific numbers. I will find out more on saturday. Just wanting some cam suggestions. Just looking around and 98" pistons seem to be priced quite abit more than 95". Bye the way thanks for all the advice.
There are no SE 103" specific heads; I assume you are referring to the heads included in the SE 103 Stage IV kit?? The factory CNC ported heads?? If so, those are not bad out of the box and are available on an exchange basis for $649 (PN 16500067). You need the bathtub chambered head; not the oval chambered head, so don't make that mistake.

You will need to deck the heads to 80cc chambers to hit 10:1 static if that is your goal. Cams that would work would have a 40*-42* intake close. Several of TMans cams close at 41*.
 

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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by djl
What's the PN on the Harley 98" piston?
Typo.
Didn't have all of my coffee intake yet.
They DO NOT offer a 98" piston. We do, however.
My mistake.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 04 rkcrr
no djl, doing 98 cubes. More than likely, I will be having my heads done to fit what ever cam I decide to use. He does have some se 103" heads that he has ported, polished and flowed to match differant cams, I believe they are T-man cams, but I don't have the specific numbers. I will find out more on saturday. Just wanting some cam suggestions. Just looking around and 98" pistons seem to be priced quite abit more than 95". Bye the way thanks for all the advice.
Automotive Machne Supply in Fort Worth, Texas offers a compete 96" kit for TC88s. Includes CNC ported heads, pistons, ring pack, cylinders, gaskets, Andrews gear drive cams, cam gear set and bearngs, cam install kit and lifters for $1,495. Pretty good deal. You would have to send in your cores; it is an exchange deal. I have never installed one but they have a good reputation.
 
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Originally Posted by Hillsidecycle.com
Typo. Didn't have all of my coffee intake yet. They DO NOT offer a 98" piston. We do, however. My mistake.
Scott
Just checking; thought something had slipped by me.
 
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Go with a total kit from Fuel Moto or from Hillside. Both of them know what they are talking about and you won't be disapointed. Prices are right as well. Give one of them a call. Both are sponsors on this forum and won't steer you wrong.
 
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