Closing of Threads
You are the exact example of what I'm talking about. I watched you in particular. You run a round the forum and use your title as moderator to bully people who don't agree with you, and then when someone points out your fault you close the thread.
I challenge you to show me a rule that distinguishes what should be in the "forums" section and what shouldn't. If not then it is opinion.
As you should no, if its not a fact then its opinion, and no opinion is right or wrong. That makes you wrong.
From what I can see the forums section is a section for technical issues with them forum. This isn't technical issue.
But I digress.
Last edited by 1BRAVO9; Aug 15, 2014 at 10:52 AM.
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Perhaps I can offer a relevant outsider's perspective, since I am both an experienced supermoderator (10 years+) on a similar sized forum (160k+ members worldwide), and while I have a great deal of time on the internet and on multiple sites, I'm still a noob here.
Sites that are poorly or inconsistently moderated eventually wither away and die, and sites that are well moderated thrive.
"Well moderated" absolutely includes a style or feel that the moderation team wants to foster.
Obviously, the site wants members who are interesting, participative, funny, and who make the site a great place to hang out and have some fun. The site does not want members who are hateful, disrespectful, rude, hostile, or chronic trolls.
This site allows significantly more leeway in daily conversations as far as posters occasionally getting into each others' faces a little bit, but then that's to be expected, given that this isn't a site about quilting. The site where I mod would be a tad more strict on the tone of some posts. At the opposite end of the spectrum are sites like pc gaming sites, where the typical conversation is a bunch of 14 year olds spewing vicious profanity at each other. Uuhhh...no.
As far as the OP's question, the moderation team's style also includes how much "behind the scenes" activity is shared with the membership as a whole, particularly in the context of why threads are edited, or closed but left viewable, or completely deleted from public view. This site shares a little less than I do, but, again, that's their prerogative. I might take a few quotes from the most over-the-line posts, put them in my final post, say: "Posts like these are why threads get closed", and close the thread but leave it viewable as a teaching moment.
The fact that this thread even exists is a positive comment on this site's open moderation ethic, because it's very common on many sites for public comments on the moderation team's decisions to be absolutely forbidden, and to only be discussed via pm.
"Off Topic" means "not about Harley-Davidsons" so it would seem that this thread would go there, however, the site also has a forum specifically for "Forum Issues", and since this is a discussion about having issues with the forum policies, this is the perfect spot. As far as "nobody will see it", all you have to do is start your morning by clicking on "New Posts" at the top of every page, and boom, there it is.
For the record, imnsho, this is an exceptionally well managed site.
Sites that are poorly or inconsistently moderated eventually wither away and die, and sites that are well moderated thrive.
"Well moderated" absolutely includes a style or feel that the moderation team wants to foster.
Obviously, the site wants members who are interesting, participative, funny, and who make the site a great place to hang out and have some fun. The site does not want members who are hateful, disrespectful, rude, hostile, or chronic trolls.
This site allows significantly more leeway in daily conversations as far as posters occasionally getting into each others' faces a little bit, but then that's to be expected, given that this isn't a site about quilting. The site where I mod would be a tad more strict on the tone of some posts. At the opposite end of the spectrum are sites like pc gaming sites, where the typical conversation is a bunch of 14 year olds spewing vicious profanity at each other. Uuhhh...no.
As far as the OP's question, the moderation team's style also includes how much "behind the scenes" activity is shared with the membership as a whole, particularly in the context of why threads are edited, or closed but left viewable, or completely deleted from public view. This site shares a little less than I do, but, again, that's their prerogative. I might take a few quotes from the most over-the-line posts, put them in my final post, say: "Posts like these are why threads get closed", and close the thread but leave it viewable as a teaching moment.
The fact that this thread even exists is a positive comment on this site's open moderation ethic, because it's very common on many sites for public comments on the moderation team's decisions to be absolutely forbidden, and to only be discussed via pm.
"Off Topic" means "not about Harley-Davidsons" so it would seem that this thread would go there, however, the site also has a forum specifically for "Forum Issues", and since this is a discussion about having issues with the forum policies, this is the perfect spot. As far as "nobody will see it", all you have to do is start your morning by clicking on "New Posts" at the top of every page, and boom, there it is.
For the record, imnsho, this is an exceptionally well managed site.
Perhaps I can offer a relevant outsider's perspective, since I am both an experienced supermoderator (10 years+) on a similar sized forum (160k+ members worldwide), and while I have a great deal of time on the internet and on multiple sites, I'm still a noob here.
Sites that are poorly or inconsistently moderated eventually wither away and die, and sites that are well moderated thrive.
I agree totally that sites must be moderated to thrive, but not based on personal biased but the rules. The part about the personal bias must have flown over your head.
"Well moderated" absolutely includes a style or feel that the moderation team wants to foster.
Again I agree, and that should but an atmosphere that a "team" wants can't include personal disdain or bias.
Obviously, the site wants members who are interesting, participative, funny, and who make the site a great place to hang out and have some fun. The site does not want members who are hateful, disrespectful, rude, hostile, or chronic trolls.
Again, look above you, the gist of my entire initial post must have flown over the top of your head. I'm talking about threads being closed that DON'T include hateful, disrespectful, rude, hostile, or chronic trolls.
This site allows significantly more leeway in daily conversations as far as posters occasionally getting into each others' faces a little bit, but then that's to be expected, given that this isn't a site about quilting. The site where I mod would be a tad more strict on the tone of some posts. At the opposite end of the spectrum are sites like pc gaming sites, where the typical conversation is a bunch of 14 year olds spewing vicious profanity at each other. Uuhhh...no.
Again, I say it again, I'm not talking about that vicious profanity and people acting like 14 year olds. I'm talking about threads getting closed in the middle of very civil discourse
As far as the OP's question, the moderation team's style also includes how much "behind the scenes" activity is shared with the membership as a whole, particularly in the context of why threads are edited, or closed but left viewable, or completely deleted from public view. This site shares a little less than I do, but, again, that's their prerogative. I might take a few quotes from the most over-the-line posts, put them in my final post, say: "Posts like these are why threads get closed", and close the thread but leave it viewable as a teaching moment.
This is exactly what I am saying and you would think it would be common sense. If you close a thread, state why it was closed so it could be a teaching tool as to why it was closed. The reason I say it should also include the moderator who closed it is because some of these threads are closed obviously because they personally don't like the subject, or they don't personally approve of some people 's opinions regarding a subject so they close it anonymously so they don't have to answer for their obvious personal disdain that they let overflow into the job as moderator.
The fact that this thread even exists is a positive comment on this site's open moderation ethic, because it's very common on many sites for public comments on the moderation team's decisions to be absolutely forbidden, and to only be discussed via pm.
Dude it just a few minutes old
"Off Topic" means "not about Harley-Davidsons" so it would seem that this thread would go there, however, the site also has a forum specifically for "Forum Issues", and since this is a discussion about having issues with the forum policies, this is the perfect spot. As far as "nobody will see it", all you have to do is start your morning by clicking on "New Posts" at the top of every page, and boom, there it is.
BINGO!! Although it may as well fit into the "Form Issues" section of forums, it definitely fits into the section of "off topic".
For the record, imnsho, this is an exceptionally well managed site.
Sites that are poorly or inconsistently moderated eventually wither away and die, and sites that are well moderated thrive.
I agree totally that sites must be moderated to thrive, but not based on personal biased but the rules. The part about the personal bias must have flown over your head.
"Well moderated" absolutely includes a style or feel that the moderation team wants to foster.
Again I agree, and that should but an atmosphere that a "team" wants can't include personal disdain or bias.
Obviously, the site wants members who are interesting, participative, funny, and who make the site a great place to hang out and have some fun. The site does not want members who are hateful, disrespectful, rude, hostile, or chronic trolls.
Again, look above you, the gist of my entire initial post must have flown over the top of your head. I'm talking about threads being closed that DON'T include hateful, disrespectful, rude, hostile, or chronic trolls.
This site allows significantly more leeway in daily conversations as far as posters occasionally getting into each others' faces a little bit, but then that's to be expected, given that this isn't a site about quilting. The site where I mod would be a tad more strict on the tone of some posts. At the opposite end of the spectrum are sites like pc gaming sites, where the typical conversation is a bunch of 14 year olds spewing vicious profanity at each other. Uuhhh...no.
Again, I say it again, I'm not talking about that vicious profanity and people acting like 14 year olds. I'm talking about threads getting closed in the middle of very civil discourse
As far as the OP's question, the moderation team's style also includes how much "behind the scenes" activity is shared with the membership as a whole, particularly in the context of why threads are edited, or closed but left viewable, or completely deleted from public view. This site shares a little less than I do, but, again, that's their prerogative. I might take a few quotes from the most over-the-line posts, put them in my final post, say: "Posts like these are why threads get closed", and close the thread but leave it viewable as a teaching moment.
This is exactly what I am saying and you would think it would be common sense. If you close a thread, state why it was closed so it could be a teaching tool as to why it was closed. The reason I say it should also include the moderator who closed it is because some of these threads are closed obviously because they personally don't like the subject, or they don't personally approve of some people 's opinions regarding a subject so they close it anonymously so they don't have to answer for their obvious personal disdain that they let overflow into the job as moderator.
The fact that this thread even exists is a positive comment on this site's open moderation ethic, because it's very common on many sites for public comments on the moderation team's decisions to be absolutely forbidden, and to only be discussed via pm.
Dude it just a few minutes old
"Off Topic" means "not about Harley-Davidsons" so it would seem that this thread would go there, however, the site also has a forum specifically for "Forum Issues", and since this is a discussion about having issues with the forum policies, this is the perfect spot. As far as "nobody will see it", all you have to do is start your morning by clicking on "New Posts" at the top of every page, and boom, there it is.
BINGO!! Although it may as well fit into the "Form Issues" section of forums, it definitely fits into the section of "off topic".
For the record, imnsho, this is an exceptionally well managed site.
Trust me you're not the only one who has experience with online forums.
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As far as the OP's question, the moderation team's style also includes how much "behind the scenes" activity is shared with the membership as a whole, particularly in the context of why threads are edited, or closed but left viewable, or completely deleted from public view. This site shares a little less than I do, but, again, that's their prerogative. I might take a few quotes from the most over-the-line posts, put them in my final post, say: "Posts like these are why threads get closed"
I frequent much larger forums than this one and when threads are locked a reason is always given.
As for this thread being moved to the appropriate forum? Sorry not buying it, the thread was moved so no one would read it.
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Thanks for your input dude, I appreciate it.
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