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I bought a new set from my HD Dealer. I haven't had them installed yet but plan to, as a preemptive measure, at my next tire change.
Anyhow, these new HD bearings are reportedly different. They do have the metal guards on em FWIW. I'd be interested in hearing from someone savvy on bearings as to the validity of the improvement in these newer HD brand bearings and if there is any real merit in swapping out bearing sets at 20,000 mi , as a preemptive measure.
Thanx guys.
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HKMark23, yours are 25mm ID x 15mm width and a Bearing Industry Std (6205-2rs). They 9276B are Std Dimensionally except for the New Sealing system that you noticed . The Metal "shields" are actually 1/2 of the New Design Sealing System.
OLD 96's are the earlier 1" (& 3/4") x 21mm wide NON Bearing Industry Std (a "Special"). You won't find his in any Bearing Manufacturer's Catalog (although they are made by just a few of the same manufacturers for that OE application) ... and to suggest otherwise would incorrect (Andy)
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Last edited by multihdrdr; Feb 23, 2020 at 07:45 AM.
My post is not clear and wasn't meant that the 6205 is what the OP required, I put the bearing I required in a 2008 Sportster as an example of seeing if there is a generic part number to search for.
My post is not clear to the OP's requirement, I put the bearing I required in a 2008 Sportster as an example of seeing if there is a generic part number to search for.
That's not the way it read to me (between the 2 posts)
But Ok, So you know now that it has NOTHING to do with the OP's Application ... He started the Thread, listed his application (2007 Ultra), which then points to a Specific bearing (that has no Generic part #)... 98 Ultras and 2008 Sportsters are Not the same bearing.
This is similar to most wheel bearing threads on this forum, someone will the talk/ask about their 25mm Bearing (usually about failure or longevity) and all these people will make reference to their experience without any reference to the type or even what year/model the bearings are from. So the thread gets all these posts from people with Tapered Roller bearings, ___ 2000-06(07) 1 & 3/4" x 21mm wide bearings and the latest 25mmx15mm bearings without indicating which bearing they're talking about ... Chaotic (apples and oranges)
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Last edited by multihdrdr; Feb 23, 2020 at 08:24 AM.
I just told you won't find those in any Bearing manufacturers' Catalog Not that you can't find them from a Bearing distrubutor/reseller who either buys enough to have them made (All *****) or gets them up from people who had them made for the Specific application.
I don't need to even look at your links, I've seen them before and it follows what I said above.
What do you think ... that I looked up/changed a bearing for one bike and now I think that I know enough to challenge people on bearings? ... think again
(with that said, Everyone should always be Learning something, I'm always trying to learn something new ... even by mistake )
Look at your links ... some things that jump out
"Special Bore" = Non Std ... simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p2752/62052RS-1-SPECIAL-BORE-Rubber-Sealed-Deep-Groove-Ball-Bearing-25.4x52x15mm/product_info.html
KML is the Chinese Brg manufacturer that ALL ***** used to have make their bearings (not anymore) amazon.com/KML-6205-2RS-1-Double-Sealed-Bearing/dp/B01N1EOQIY
Now find that bearing in KML's catalog ... Prove me Wrong ... (I really hope you can, I would pick some up)
This is very telling (but not surprising, kind of your MO) ... if our roles were reversed, I would have asked for more details concerning the differences of the bearings referenced, but instead you just want to prove me wrong. You need to realize you don't know enough yet to know what you don't know
If you don't want to learn __ then don't
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Last edited by multihdrdr; Feb 23, 2020 at 10:14 AM.
Back to the Task at Hand ... OLD 96, I would have also recommended ALL *****, but not until I get more details on their NEW version.
Obviously, the AB will get you down the road, but although more expensive ($33 list), the Factory bearing might be hard to beat. That's only referencing #9247 (1") and #9267 (3/4") x 21mm bearings. They have 4 seals per bearing (2 per side), that's what AB says they've changed ... to 1 per side (a Brg Ind Std)
Unless HD has changed those bearings also (haven't bought from them in long while) ... but they do have somewhat of a unique seal that should tell if they have been changed
If you do get some ... offer up some pics
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Last edited by multihdrdr; Feb 23, 2020 at 10:16 AM.
Well, as always, a lively discussion on the Forum ... No doubt running changes ( profits maximized ) will always factor in manufacturing process ... Hopefully my All ***** have as much longevity as my current ***** :>)
Well, as always, a lively discussion on the Forum ... No doubt running changes ( profits maximized ) will always factor in manufacturing process ... Hopefully my All ***** have as much longevity as my current ***** :>
No doubt
Really I was surprised about ALL *****. I had actually ordered a batch of 1"x 52 x 15mm same width as the 25mm (that size originally not used on any OE harley). Over time I witnessed them going from Blue Seals to Brown Seals, but always with "KML" on the seal. This batch came with Black Seals and NO "KML", actually nothing but the Industry Std # on the seal (which still didn't signify 1" ID, but that's another story). I called AB and finally got transferred to the "Technical Customer Service Manager" which told me "NO more KML" (and I was happy with KML).
Then conversation moved to 21mm wide bearings and I asked about the 4 seals. He had to email me later with the news ... "NO MORE 4 SEALS"
So here we are ... but I just started on my new quest
All ***** (KML): 3/4"ID x 21mm Wide (2 seals per side) << __ >> 1"ID x 21mm Wide (2 seals per side) I had some New Old Stock
Disregard the groove on the seal of the 3/4" ... something rubbed on it
1" ID x 15mm Wide (old All ***** / KML Blue one) << ____ >> 1" ID x 15mm Wide (NEW All ***** / No Name)
I also have some NEW 25mm ID x 15mm Wide (which prompted my call to All *****) ... they are Identical Visually to NEW 1" x15mm above even with same 6205RS (only) on the seal. Which makes sense because they just resize the smaller ID 6205 for the 1"ID versions, but could mess someone up. They use a Sticker on the small bag to differentiate the Two Different sizes and of course they only fit properly one or the other
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Last edited by multihdrdr; Feb 23, 2020 at 01:37 PM.
Thanks for all the info. Beginning to almost regret posting. Am totally confused with information overload.. Do I need 1.0 inch or 3/4 inch ID. Do I need 21mm or 15mm? Do I go with AB or HD or ETC? And. In no way intended to start a pissing contest.
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(and I was happy with KML).
. Do I need 1.0 inch or 3/4 inch ID. Do I need 21mm or 15mm? Do I go with AB or HD or ETC? 