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Just my humble opinion, but whenever I ride with a new group, I ride in the back, "tailgunner" or second from the last.... It gives you a chance to observe how they ride and how you will fit in. If I know the group well, I'm most comfortable in the second slot, or somewhere in the middle.
Someone in that group has to (or wants to be) the SUPER-ALPHA rider. Try to find out who that is and ask for a rules meeting, or at least a face-to-face with her to ask how she plans to organize the group. I prefer to ride at the back of any group; experienced or not. That is about the only spot in the group that gives me the flexibility to space myself from the last rider. Another option is to 'suggest' certain rules to the captain of the ride. The bottom line is if you don't feel comfortable 'excuse' yourself from the group and ride to the destination by yourself. This goes for male, female or mixed groups alike.
group riding okay, I would like some feed back on GROUP Riding. I am planning on riding with a group of women-- all who seem to be ALPHA FEMALES(for lack of a better word) I never liked riding in groups because it always seems like a cluster f***. I have rode most of my miles with men and it never seemed so difficult. Riding with new women and a group this past season. I plan on riding this coming season with them again. I brought up some suggestions for large group riding (more than 5) my suggestion was to separate into groups A and B. (because it seems we had to stop way too many times...all of us..to many) I'm really not sure on skill level of all these women. I do know that most of us have been riding for at least 3 or more years. and I cant judge a skill level because someone says they have been riding for years. This is why I don't like riding in groups. My experience has told me that it takes time to form a relationship with riding partners-- so when we have a group of 5 or more women riding how do we gage where everyone should be in the ride? leader - sweeper??? anyone?
To make it simple, follow your gut feelings, they are there for a reason. If you feel that there are way too many Alpha Females in the group and after asking them to set some guide lines on how to properly ride with each other and they still fail to go along with it, then you have to consider what is best for #1 ( you )
group riding okay, I would like some feed back on GROUP Riding. I am planning on riding with a group of women-- all who seem to be ALPHA FEMALES(for lack of a better word) I never liked riding in groups because it always seems like a cluster f***. I have rode most of my miles with men and it never seemed so difficult. Riding with new women and a group this past season. I plan on riding this coming season with them again. I brought up some suggestions for large group riding (more than 5) my suggestion was to separate into groups A and B. (because it seems we had to stop way too many times...all of us..to many) I'm really not sure on skill level of all these women. I do know that most of us have been riding for at least 3 or more years. and I cant judge a skill level because someone says they have been riding for years. This is why I don't like riding in groups. My experience has told me that it takes time to form a relationship with riding partners-- so when we have a group of 5 or more women riding how do we gage where everyone should be in the ride? leader - sweeper??? anyone?
One point that hasn't been picked up yet -- when you say "stop way too many times", what do you mean? Are these women "of a certain age"?
When I ride in groups, the stops are pre-arranged every couple of hours or whenever the v-rods and sportsters need a refill.
group riding okay, I would like some feed back on GROUP Riding. I am planning on riding with a group of women-- all who seem to be ALPHA FEMALES(for lack of a better word) I never liked riding in groups because it always seems like a cluster f***. I have rode most of my miles with men and it never seemed so difficult. Riding with new women and a group this past season. I plan on riding this coming season with them again. I brought up some suggestions for large group riding (more than 5) my suggestion was to separate into groups A and B. (because it seems we had to stop way too many times...all of us..to many) I'm really not sure on skill level of all these women. I do know that most of us have been riding for at least 3 or more years. and I cant judge a skill level because someone says they have been riding for years. This is why I don't like riding in groups. My experience has told me that it takes time to form a relationship with riding partners-- so when we have a group of 5 or more women riding how do we gage where everyone should be in the ride? leader - sweeper??? anyone?
I like riding in groups...as long as the group has a good leader who takes other riders into account. If this group does not have a Road Captain, an experienced rider willing to lead the group, I might pass, particularly if I didn't know the other riders well enough to know that they'd keep a good distance and stay in control.
It also sounds like this group may have a "traveling style" issue for you, versus riding style in that they want to make a lot of stops. For me, I find too many stops irritating. If I'm going on a ride, I'm out there to RIDE, not stop at every historical marker or tourist trap along the way!
One way you could handle this, and I think others have suggested it, is to ride along and if you either have security concerns or are just tired of all the stops and such, you can leave the group at one of their numerous stops. Just let them know you have a schedule to keep, no hard feelings, and you're free to ride your own ride from there.
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