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Mike , you can pass on the money just tell the man you have to do this to get your own head right, he may not want it but he should respect that. When done you two are on even footing again might take a bit of the complication out of things for both of you.
Yeah, maybe you're right. But I just don't understand where people are getting the idea that I'm trying to duck out of paying him cash and/or forcing decisions here. I offered to pay him back straight up. He doesn't care about the money. Guy needs wheels. Thought maybe I'd help him out there instead then. If he came out all of the sudden and said he'd rather have the money, then I'd just keep the bike for myself or sell it and pay the guy his money. No big deal.
Funny thing is, he hasn't even been bugging me to pay him back. This is all me just trying to settle a debt because I just don't like owing people money. I make the offer myself from time to time to pay him something whenever he seems strapped or down and he always says not to worry about the money. Drives me nuts sometimes...
I think I know right where Mike is. It is not about the cash. If select friends tried to pay me back with cash there would be a small fist fight. Now if those same friends made even a small gesture that says they know and care about me, now that is priceless. Money doesn't buy friends but it sure can make enemies.
The money has no meaning but the bike will stay with him for life .
Good on you Mike. Don't over think which bike to get. If he is like me the gesture you make will make him love whichever bike you go with.
Cheers
I don't think the bike route is the way to go. Personality has to go into it and there is only one person that can do that and it is not you.
You know this.
Take him out for some beers and just level with him the the debt is getting to you and that you HAVE to make it right.
Tell him that he has to respect you for that because you are just not feeling right about owing him and that a compromise has to be reached. Right now.
I think anybody would be lucky to have either one or both of you as friends.
Good luck.
I think you and Twizted are right. Somethings gotta happen here to clear this up, but I've just got to let him be the one to decide how.
Like I said, I'll throw the offer out there and see what comes of it. Just let it go where it will.
I think I know right where Mike is. It is not about the cash. If select friends tried to pay me back with cash there would be a small fist fight. Now if those same friends made even a small gesture that says they know and care about me, now that is priceless. Money doesn't buy friends but it sure can make enemies.
The money has no meaning but the bike will stay with him for life .
Good on you Mike. Don't over think which bike to get. If he is like me the gesture you make will make him love whichever bike you go with.
Cheers
So I've got this friend...
For a few years now I've owed the guy about $1200...
I've decided this might be a good opportunity to pay the guy back...
So the question is, what direction do I go with this project bike...
So give me some feedback...
Originally Posted by Ratbike_Mike
...I'll throw the offer out there and see what comes of it. Just let it go where it will.
Originally Posted by Ratbike_Mike
...I offered to pay him back straight up...
he hasn't even been bugging me to pay him back...
I make the offer myself from time to time to pay him something whenever he seems strapped...
Originally Posted by Ratbike_Mike
...I've offered him the cash...
And yeah, there is some element of self-interest here...
Originally Posted by Ratbike_Mike
...I offered the guy cash...
Mike--somewhere along the way you must realize that no quantity of halfhearted offers/gestures, to pay back some of what you've owed him for so long, will settle your debt. But just one honest effort, on your part, and you would simply put the $1200 in his hand, thank him and make sure he knows how important it is, to you, that he accept your terms of repayment for a debt so long held.
Then I would do something so very special for him.
Yeah, maybe you're right. But I just don't understand where people are getting the idea that I'm trying to duck out of paying him cash and/or forcing decisions here. I offered to pay him back straight up. He doesn't care about the money. Guy needs wheels. Thought maybe I'd help him out there instead then. If he came out all of the sudden and said he'd rather have the money, then I'd just keep the bike for myself or sell it and pay the guy his money. No big deal.
Funny thing is, he hasn't even been bugging me to pay him back. This is all me just trying to settle a debt because I just don't like owing people money. I make the offer myself from time to time to pay him something whenever he seems strapped or down and he always says not to worry about the money. Drives me nuts sometimes...
Here's a bit of perspective from his side maybe, I've loaned money knowing getting it back probably wouldn't happen but I had it and knew the risks. Did it change things between myself and the people involved ? Did and didn't at the same time if you can understand that but it puts your head in a strange place and you do see the other party in a different light when years down the road they own up either with however it happens be it money or whatever. Do what you need to settle you'r own mind at this point partner.
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Maybe he feels you have done more for him than he has done for you and it's his way of repaying you.
Definitely need to have a heart to heart talk with him.
If a person can find one true friend in a life time consider yourself blessed as they become family & not just a friend any longer.
Best of luck.
Too bad. I have a strong running '76 Ironhead I'd let go for $2000 that all that's needed is a charging system. Battery, generator rebuild and a regulator.
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