General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

A.M.F were they good or bad

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 22, 2015 | 09:52 PM
  #41  
packrats1957's Avatar
packrats1957
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: arizona
Default

Originally Posted by 103 sedona orange
My first new Harley was a 78 Sporty & also worked at the dealership. Guys bitched about the quality of AMF bikes. I never had any problems with mine. AMF saved Harley ***.
.I have to agree with what your saying .but how about the part where they went outside Harley and had some other then harley design the evo.alot of people say the new engines are not harley.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2015 | 10:04 PM
  #42  
Greezey Rider's Avatar
Greezey Rider
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 6,322
Likes: 2,500
From: Tennessee
Default

Originally Posted by packrats1957
.I have to agree with what your saying .but how about the part where they went outside Harley and had some other then harley design the evo.alot of people say the new engines are not harley.

A lot of people are idiots....

At the time that the EVO was being conceived there was a project in development called the "Nova" project, it involved an engine design that was a joint venture between Harley and Porsche.
The nova Project never went beyond the prototype stage and was scrapped when the investment group bought Harley back from AMF.

Eventually the MoCo introduced the V-rod which was powered by a motor much like the one being designed for the Nova project.

The EVO became the standard bearer for Harley not long after the buy back and it was eventually replaced by the Twin Cam, Both motors were conceived and designed by Harley Davidson in spite of what the rumor mills claimed.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2015 | 10:15 PM
  #43  
packrats1957's Avatar
packrats1957
Thread Starter
|
6th Gear
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: arizona
Default

Originally Posted by Greezey Rider
A lot of people are idiots....

At the time that the EVO was being conceived there was a project in development called the "Nova" project, it involved an engine design that was a joint venture between Harley and Porsche.
The nova Project never went beyond the prototype stage and was scrapped when the investment group bought Harley back from AMF.

Eventually the MoCo introduced the V-rod which was powered by a motor much like the one being designed for the Nova project.

The EVO became the standard bearer for Harley not long after the buy back and it was eventually replaced by the Twin Cam, Both motors were conceived and designed by Harley Davidson in spite of what the rumor mills claimed.
.I had heard that an thanks for the clarification.
 
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2015 | 11:26 PM
  #44  
6 gun's Avatar
6 gun
Seasoned HDF Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 9,384
Likes: 1,776
From: Central Texas
Default

The original Harley Davidson represented American quality, AMF represented Quantity and the present Harley represents Screw America Lets Make More Money!
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2015 | 05:38 AM
  #45  
aliass's Avatar
aliass
Road Captain
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 643
Likes: 3
From: in the fast lane
Default

just a thought but I think the sale of motorcycles to the police and military might have kept the company going a bit too especially during the depression years and world war 2 then with the British machines then with the Japanese machines coming along of the outlaw bike scean and bikersploitation movie's . the boat tail on the first super glides had something to do with amf building fiberglass boats I read somewhere .


my favourite book I own and I have read over and over while "shreeding " a word I created myself . you know when take a crap and read about bikes until your legs go dead is the illustrated directory of Harley Davidson motorcycles by tod rafferty this is the number of the book isbn 0-86288-667-8 . its a nice compact book 4 1/4 " by 8 1/2 " . its a little gem packed full of interesting history on every machine . I was a little pissed that my bike wasn't mentioned but that's the way she goes . you will be glad you bought it if you can find a copy mine was printed in 2005 in the UK . so ebay.co.uk or amazon.uk might be good places to try .
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2015 | 07:05 AM
  #46  
YeOldeStonecat's Avatar
YeOldeStonecat
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 12,208
Likes: 7,767
From: Along the shoreline in SW FL
Default

Don't forget about manufacturing in America in general in the 70's...it was **** poor quality. Not so much AMF to blame..they were really just the financial backers. Primary example...look at the auto industry of the 70's and early 80's
 

Last edited by YeOldeStonecat; Aug 23, 2015 at 08:05 AM.
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2015 | 08:10 AM
  #47  
JOHNNYFLHR's Avatar
JOHNNYFLHR
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 2,204
Likes: 610
From: TOMS RIVER, NEW JERSEY
Default

I had a 76 sporty and the bike was great. Always got me where I wanted to go
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2015 | 08:45 AM
  #48  
ppilotmike's Avatar
ppilotmike
Road Captain
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 572
Likes: 110
From: under the bridge on the sunrise side
Default

I loved every one of my AMF bikes. First was a 79' Superglide rode it 65K miles. The last one was an 83' Eglide didn't have the best of luck with that one but made several great trips with it. My favorite was a 79' Lowrider I bought used, wish I still had that one.
 
Reply
HD Forum Stories

The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders

story-0

7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 23, 2015 | 09:39 AM
  #49  
WP50's Avatar
WP50
Seasoned HDF Member
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 6,184
Likes: 2,132
From: W. Texas
Default

Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat
Don't forget about manufacturing in America in general in the 70's...it was **** poor quality. Not so much AMF to blame..they were really just the financial backers. Primary example...look at the auto industry of the 70's and early 80's
This is very well said.
I went on the line in 74 and fought many problem in working at dealership.
Those years made working on the 90's auto and trucks a piece of cake for the most part.

WP
 
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2015 | 09:43 AM
  #50  
DannyZ71's Avatar
DannyZ71
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 12,653
Likes: 18
From: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma
Default

Originally Posted by Greezey Rider
Most of the guys that bad mouth AMF today didn't even ride Harleys during those years and they just repeat that **** because they heard someone else say it.

Monkey see, Monkey do.

Whether you like them or not, AMF is the only reason that Harley-Davidson exists today.
Truer words were never spoken!! I had several AMF bikes, and they were all great with no problems at all. The last being, a 1980 Low Rider. That bike was a work of art.

AMF = Adios M****r F****f.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:35 PM.

story-0
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles

Slideshow: The bar-and-shield logo shows up on far more than motorcycles, some of the company's most unexpected products have nothing to do with riding.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 16:50:35


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: Not every Harley gets it right, but these are the ones that genuinely earned their reputation.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-15 14:23:21


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever

Slideshow: From the troubled AMF years to modern misfires, these bikes earned reputations for reliability issues, questionable engineering, or disappointing performance.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-01 20:01:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In

Slideshow: Killer Custom's "Jail Breaker" build focuses more on stance and visual aggression than mechanical overhaul.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-18 19:20:32


VIEW MORE
story-4
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?

Slideshow: The Swiss custom shop has taken a Harley Softail and stretched it into something so long and low that it looks closer to a rolling sculpture than a conventional motorcycle.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-07 16:15:30


VIEW MORE
story-5
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's new RMCR concept revives the café racer formula with modern hardware-and it may be exactly the reset the company needs.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-04 12:23:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II

Slideshow: A standard cruiser becomes an intricate metal canvas in the hands of a Swiss custom house known for pushing Harley-Davidson platforms far beyond their factory brief.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-02-24 18:19:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There is no shortage of great motorcycles to buy, but we would avoid these ten.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-02-19 14:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026

Slideshow: Harley-Davidson's challenges aren't abstract; they show up in dropping shipments, shrinking dealer traffic, and strategic decisions that aren't yet translating into growth.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-13 18:33:17


VIEW MORE
story-9
Southpaw Super Glide: A Left-Hand-Drive 1979 Harley FXE Built to Fit the Rider

Slideshow: Graeme Billington's left-hand-drive Shovelhead is as much about problem-solving as it is about classic Harley form.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2025-12-30 11:27:08


VIEW MORE