New roadster
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Joined: May 2014
Posts: 171
Likes: 9
From: Colorado
How dare you!
In one sentence you have summed up all the positive features of the "new" bike. Sadly, that comes to a total of 2.
No mention of name brand enhanced suspension, different gearing, liquid cooling, higher compression, trottle by wire, traction control, or ... hp/tq ratings.
If someone really wants a "Roadster" the offerings from BMW, Ducati and Triumph put this phony to shame.
Lots of "show", not much "go".
No mention of name brand enhanced suspension, different gearing, liquid cooling, higher compression, trottle by wire, traction control, or ... hp/tq ratings.
If someone really wants a "Roadster" the offerings from BMW, Ducati and Triumph put this phony to shame.
Lots of "show", not much "go".
The target audience likes the bobbed fenders that who this bike is being marketed to. Go to Harleys Instagram page the kids are really digging this bike
In one sentence you have summed up all the positive features of the "new" bike. Sadly, that comes to a total of 2.
No mention of name brand enhanced suspension, different gearing, liquid cooling, higher compression, trottle by wire, traction control, or ... hp/tq ratings.
If someone really wants a "Roadster" the offerings from BMW, Ducati and Triumph put this phony to shame.
Lots of "show", not much "go".
No mention of name brand enhanced suspension, different gearing, liquid cooling, higher compression, trottle by wire, traction control, or ... hp/tq ratings.
If someone really wants a "Roadster" the offerings from BMW, Ducati and Triumph put this phony to shame.
Lots of "show", not much "go".
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Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 2,726
Likes: 717
From: Pennsyleffinvania
2016 Ducati Monster 1200 msrp $13,995 HP? 135
2016 BMW RnineT msrp $15,095 HP? 110
All come stock with ABS, the Monster also has traction control in several modes, etc.
On the Harley, ABS is an option, with a whopping 68hp.
Many of the posters are parroting old tired cliches that are without merit or foundation in fact.
Mainly in the need for H-D to attract younger buyers. The fact is for the past several years H-D has captured 50%+ of the 19 to 34 demographics of buyers of street bikes over 600cc. with big percentages of female, black and Hispanic in that group.
Go to the thread in the Dyna section an watch the video Mr. Laidlaw of Laidlaw H-D made when he was selected to introduce the half year model Lowrider S.
In it he describes the change in California sportbike riders to selecting Sportster and Dyna models over sportbikes. Many south western dealers can't stock enough to supply the demand. They rely of midwestern dealer trades for their inventory and in return trade touring and Softails.
My dealer sent 8 Sportsters last fall to a California dealer that sells every thing he gets.
Of course the older H-D rider like Dickey aren't up on hot trends of today's youthful bike market.
Here in the midwest the trikes and touring are the big sellers.
The Sportster R and the Dyna S are the direct result of customer demand. And as Mr Laidlaw said the seats were created by rider demand. H-D dealers country wide are selling all they can get and many immediately do the 117 cu. in upgrade.
Come on guys just get up to speed on the times.
Mainly in the need for H-D to attract younger buyers. The fact is for the past several years H-D has captured 50%+ of the 19 to 34 demographics of buyers of street bikes over 600cc. with big percentages of female, black and Hispanic in that group.
Go to the thread in the Dyna section an watch the video Mr. Laidlaw of Laidlaw H-D made when he was selected to introduce the half year model Lowrider S.
In it he describes the change in California sportbike riders to selecting Sportster and Dyna models over sportbikes. Many south western dealers can't stock enough to supply the demand. They rely of midwestern dealer trades for their inventory and in return trade touring and Softails.
My dealer sent 8 Sportsters last fall to a California dealer that sells every thing he gets.
Of course the older H-D rider like Dickey aren't up on hot trends of today's youthful bike market.
Here in the midwest the trikes and touring are the big sellers.
The Sportster R and the Dyna S are the direct result of customer demand. And as Mr Laidlaw said the seats were created by rider demand. H-D dealers country wide are selling all they can get and many immediately do the 117 cu. in upgrade.
Come on guys just get up to speed on the times.
"This bike isn't exactly like mine so I automatically hate it" and "Harley is stupid for doing something different" crowd needs to gain a different perspective. Not everybody wants a black Street Glide or Ultra Classic.
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Joined: May 2011
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From: Iowa
Hey I like my black Ultra Classic!!!! I completely agree with you and Ih4x4 though. I also love my black Sporty as well and welcome the changes that come about with new models.
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Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,747
Likes: 1,078
From: N/A
Not a bad looking bike, but just another Nightster/Iron/48 variant.
The "walnut tank" holds 3.3 gal. I'd like something with a little more capacity, say a Brazil nut?
The "walnut tank" holds 3.3 gal. I'd like something with a little more capacity, say a Brazil nut?
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Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Northern WV
So Harley puts good brakes and suspension on a Sportster, a not quite large enough gas tank, then makes it impractical with a postage stamp size front fender and a rear fender with its back half cut off. Do the "stylists" designing these bikes ever ride in the rain or even detail a bike w/o fenders?
