When do you think ??
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When do you think ??
Just curious --- When do you think Harley will step up to the plate and replace their 88cu motor with the 95cu or for that matter the 103 cu .Instead of having to pay extra for the upgrade.I do believe Harleys standard displacement falls short of 90% of their competition.Look at Victory with 100cu,Honda 1800cc,etc.I know the 88cu is a reliable motor,but I would like to see some of their models come standard with higher displacements.
RE: When do you think ??
You know Ice,
I figured after they came out with the 103 they would make the 95 standard. They seem to be coming out with more and more bikes with the 95 already installed. Of course, look at the price.
Terry
I figured after they came out with the 103 they would make the 95 standard. They seem to be coming out with more and more bikes with the 95 already installed. Of course, look at the price.
Terry
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RE: When do you think ??
Which models have the 95cu as the standard motor,besides the screaming eagle versions? I believe the screaming eagle models come with the 103cu motor.
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yes ice, the SE's have the 103, however in 03 the duece had the 95. i think HD is NOT going to put a larger motor until they put a water cooled engine in more bikes....like an Electra glide with the vrod engine
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RE: When do you think ??
Ice,
Good question, I have wondered this for a couple years now. A friend from the MOCO told me that the cost is almost nothing for the factory to do the 95" and minimal for them to do the 103". The reason they don't do it is because it would take away all of that business from the dealers. Problem is, that may help in the short term but it will start to hurt over the long run as the consumer gets wise. [
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Good question, I have wondered this for a couple years now. A friend from the MOCO told me that the cost is almost nothing for the factory to do the 95" and minimal for them to do the 103". The reason they don't do it is because it would take away all of that business from the dealers. Problem is, that may help in the short term but it will start to hurt over the long run as the consumer gets wise. [
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RE: When do you think ??
They only have a few years left to up the cc's until the air-motors are pretty much regulated out of existance. In the meantime, gas mileage may start becoming more important than larger motors. My old 74 inch Shovel got about 40 mpg on average, but that was mostly due to the 3 speed tranny. My 80 inch Evo gets about 50 mpg. A 95 or a 103 ain't gonna get those numbers, especially since they seem to get ridden "harder!" Anyway, my 80 goes past 100 with ease, bone stock. Works for this ol' fart!
It's all a matter of what the market wants, and if enough holler for the bigger motors, they'll come. As far as losing too much market to the metrics with the big motors, I doubt it. The metrics might be big & fast, but they get lousy mileage, and are uglier than female baboon's butt in heat. And the way those companies operate, 10 years down the road there will be few parts available from the dealer, and almost no aftermarket parts.
Other bikes are OK, but they ain't Harleys, and if they ain't HD, I just don't care!
It's all a matter of what the market wants, and if enough holler for the bigger motors, they'll come. As far as losing too much market to the metrics with the big motors, I doubt it. The metrics might be big & fast, but they get lousy mileage, and are uglier than female baboon's butt in heat. And the way those companies operate, 10 years down the road there will be few parts available from the dealer, and almost no aftermarket parts.
Other bikes are OK, but they ain't Harleys, and if they ain't HD, I just don't care!
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RE: When do you think ??
Female baboons butt in heat !!!!!!!!!!!!YOUR KILLING ME !!!!!!!!!! TOO FUNNY.
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They only have a few years left to up the cc's until the air-motors are pretty much regulated out of existance. In the meantime, gas mileage may start becoming more important than larger motors. My old 74 inch Shovel got about 40 mpg on average, but that was mostly due to the 3 speed tranny. My 80 inch Evo gets about 50 mpg. A 95 or a 103 ain't gonna get those numbers, especially since they seem to get ridden "harder!" Anyway, my 80 goes past 100 with ease, bone stock. Works for this ol' fart!
It's all a matter of what the market wants, and if enough holler for the bigger motors, they'll come. As far as losing too much market to the metrics with the big motors, I doubt it. The metrics might be big & fast, but they get lousy mileage, and are uglier than female baboon's butt in heat. And the way those companies operate, 10 years down the road there will be few parts available from the dealer, and almost no aftermarket parts.
Other bikes are OK, but they ain't Harleys, and if they ain't HD, I just don't care!
They only have a few years left to up the cc's until the air-motors are pretty much regulated out of existance. In the meantime, gas mileage may start becoming more important than larger motors. My old 74 inch Shovel got about 40 mpg on average, but that was mostly due to the 3 speed tranny. My 80 inch Evo gets about 50 mpg. A 95 or a 103 ain't gonna get those numbers, especially since they seem to get ridden "harder!" Anyway, my 80 goes past 100 with ease, bone stock. Works for this ol' fart!
It's all a matter of what the market wants, and if enough holler for the bigger motors, they'll come. As far as losing too much market to the metrics with the big motors, I doubt it. The metrics might be big & fast, but they get lousy mileage, and are uglier than female baboon's butt in heat. And the way those companies operate, 10 years down the road there will be few parts available from the dealer, and almost no aftermarket parts.
Other bikes are OK, but they ain't Harleys, and if they ain't HD, I just don't care!
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as long as people pay for the big bore upgrade......they'll be glad to sell it to ya!
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Anyway, my 80 goes past 100 with ease, bone stock. Works for this ol' fart!
It's all a matter of what the market wants, and if enough holler for the bigger motors, they'll come. As far as losing too much market to the metrics with the big motors, I doubt it. The metrics might be big & fast, but they get lousy mileage, and are uglier than female baboon's butt in heat. And the way those companies operate, 10 years down the road there will be few parts available from the dealer, and almost no aftermarket parts.
Other bikes are OK, but they ain't Harleys, and if they ain't HD, I just don't care!
Anyway, my 80 goes past 100 with ease, bone stock. Works for this ol' fart!
It's all a matter of what the market wants, and if enough holler for the bigger motors, they'll come. As far as losing too much market to the metrics with the big motors, I doubt it. The metrics might be big & fast, but they get lousy mileage, and are uglier than female baboon's butt in heat. And the way those companies operate, 10 years down the road there will be few parts available from the dealer, and almost no aftermarket parts.
Other bikes are OK, but they ain't Harleys, and if they ain't HD, I just don't care!
poco,
I appreciate your insight and humor and your devotion to Harley is great.
I know that there are many "ol' farts" like you out there that will keep the MOCO going but I wonder about the young'ins that may not have the same passion for Harley's. Those are the potential buyers that Milwaukee is trying to swoon right now and I am not so sure it is working. I just heard last night that my dealer was gonna have a sales meeting this morning because the bikes aren't moving. The local paper up this way had a few articles in the business section over the past 6 months where they quoted a couple dealers from around the midwest that are pretty worried also.
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