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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 11:29 AM
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https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/...lars-to-w.aspx


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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 11:43 AM
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what about it? I think indian makes a great machine. Im not sure if i like their big twins better than hds but id definately buy a scout over a sportster.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 12:24 PM
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Congratulations to the champions.

I have read where Harley has stepped up for next year and adding another half million bucks to the program. We'll see how that pays off.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by me ride um Centennial
Indian spent that much to win the crown (using a purpose-built Swiss made bike) so what's wrong with Harley doing the same?

And yet another Motley Fool article who owns shares of and recommends Polaris Industries. Seems they write one a week bashing HD.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 04Hali
Indian spent that much to win the crown (using a purpose-built Swiss made bike) so what's wrong with Harley doing the same?

And yet another Motley Fool article who owns shares of and recommends Polaris Industries. Seems they write one a week bashing HD.


article is not bashing anything. hd got b'smacked. now they have to step their game up. all that there is to it.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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HD got there a$$ handed to them this year. Indian took the time to develop a race bike, test it and work out the bugs prior to this past season. HD on the other hand, gave V&H a rumored 3 + million to build and go race the XG750 engine. Sorry, but the V&H bikes and engines were/are a joke, most all of them would not complete a race without failing. Now HD is putting up a large purse money deal, in hopes the independent teams will save there a$$ next year.

The entire Indian program was a purpose built race deal. I do not believe there is one part on the bike that comes from the production bike. Indian has sold 40 more race bikes at last count and delivered over 25 of them to race teams after the end of the season! Nothing wrong at all with what they did as HD did the same thing years ago with the XR750 engine.

HD on the other hand, gave V&H the money and said have at it.... they didn't get much for there money! Engines failed at most every race! Two of the three riders on the V&H team quit at the end of last season and one of them was I believe a four time AMA Grand Champion. So I do not believe it was a rider issue at all, for the V&H team. The bikes were just not even close to what Indian put out. If HD really wants to win anything this next season they are going to need to step up and support the independent teams with more than just purse money!
 
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Old Dec 25, 2017 | 10:04 AM
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Flat track racing was a declining sport and not that important to HD. Then Polaris bought Indian and wanted some publicity and winning flat track racing was important to them as they hoped to resurrect the Harley-Indian wars of old, so they threw big money on it. Who knows if it will help sell Indians as the old "race on Sunday and sell on Monday", really isn't that relevant anymore. It's only been the last year or so that the numerous flat track racing posts have showed up on the Harley forums and it's usually Indian owners posting them.

If you don't think flat track racing was declining do a search on it.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2017 | 11:04 AM
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I think H-D should dispense with this namby-pamby flat track stuff and get back into road racing ... big time. Start with something easy like World Superbike and show the snowflake Europeans and the Jap crap bike makers how real 'Merican iron kicks butt. Then move on to Moto GP and do the same. H-D has the best engineers on the planet and their vast experience making leaky transmissions, dry sump crankcases that aren't so dry, do-rags and get back whips should really get them to the top in no time. Should be no problem, right? Oh wait ... it's Christmas and not April fools! Oops, my bad. Carry on. :-)
 
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LOL, thanks for the chuckle.
 
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Originally Posted by 04Hali
Flat track racing was a declining sport and not that important to HD. Then Polaris bought Indian and wanted some publicity and winning flat track racing was important to them as they hoped to resurrect the Harley-Indian wars of old, so they threw big money on it. Who knows if it will help sell Indians as the old "race on Sunday and sell on Monday", really isn't that relevant anymore. It's only been the last year or so that the numerous flat track racing posts have showed up on the Harley forums and it's usually Indian owners posting them.

If you don't think flat track racing was declining do a search on it.
Flat track is in the middle of a major resurgence, and Harley Davidson has in no way forgotten flat track. There are numerous brands racing flat track now with Indian, Harley, Kawasaki, Yamaha, KTM, Aprilia, Ducati, and many others running bikes. They have flat track at the X-Games, and NBCSN broadcasts the entire series . Fanschoice.tv live streams every race on the internet. I watched the entire series live on the internet last season.
 
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