A Message From Matt Levatich
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Levatich is a lying liberal douchebag.
Even before the tariff war started, HD had announced a Thailand plant. HD claimed it was because we pulled out of the TPP trade treaty. A treaty designed to move more American manufacturing to Asian countries so they could cut their American labor costs and ship the product back to the states without penalty exactly like NAFTA had done with South and Central America.
This douchebag is the sole reason why I bought an Indian after I wrecked my Fat Boy a few months ago.
Levatich called Trump supporters a "crazy parade" during the last election.
Fk Levatich and Fk Harley.
Even before the tariff war started, HD had announced a Thailand plant. HD claimed it was because we pulled out of the TPP trade treaty. A treaty designed to move more American manufacturing to Asian countries so they could cut their American labor costs and ship the product back to the states without penalty exactly like NAFTA had done with South and Central America.
This douchebag is the sole reason why I bought an Indian after I wrecked my Fat Boy a few months ago.
Levatich called Trump supporters a "crazy parade" during the last election.
Fk Levatich and Fk Harley.
I don't care who's running the show, I love the Harleys I have and I wouldnt buy a new Indian because I disagreed with CEO
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Ouch... So my RK would end up somewhere around 27-30K right now..Thats not really all that fair as it is. with current tariffs. It cant cost too much to physically ship a bike over there ( tariffs not included) when your doing volume.
Last edited by stixvrad; Aug 15, 2018 at 03:07 PM.
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Guess he missed the part about Indian seriously considering moving some production out of the US to its assembly plant in Poland.....
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I to don't know why Polaris said the same thing as HD and no one cares. I do think we need to give some time to Trump. He is trying to level the playing field. No other President has had the guts to do it.we all need to calm down and let it work out, I think in the end our country will have a improved triad deal then we have had since the 60s.
One, the Poland plant has been in operation for years building their powersports line for the overseas market. Two, Indian is not laying off American workers to open the plant and move the line overseas. They are actually expanding the Spirit Lake facility to handle increased demand and to expand the lines for the FTR 750 and FTR 1200 coming out in the next few months. So they are likely to add workers. Three, Indian is still small at 25K bikes per year. Possibly 30-35K next year so they aren't as much a household name to make an example out of. Four, they didn't sit down in closed doors sessions with Trump and not reveal their future plans. HD did that. I'm sure that pissed Trump off. And five, same as HD they are bikes for the overseas market only. Frame and engines will still be made here and shipped overseas for assembly. I believe Harley is doing the same thing in that regard.
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Levatich is a lying liberal douchebag.
Even before the tariff war started, HD had announced a Thailand plant. HD claimed it was because we pulled out of the TPP trade treaty. A treaty designed to move more American manufacturing to Asian countries so they could cut their American labor costs and ship the product back to the states without penalty exactly like NAFTA had done with South and Central America.
This douchebag is the sole reason why I bought an Indian after I wrecked my Fat Boy a few months ago.
Levatich called Trump supporters a "crazy parade" during the last election.
Fk Levatich and Fk Harley.
Even before the tariff war started, HD had announced a Thailand plant. HD claimed it was because we pulled out of the TPP trade treaty. A treaty designed to move more American manufacturing to Asian countries so they could cut their American labor costs and ship the product back to the states without penalty exactly like NAFTA had done with South and Central America.
This douchebag is the sole reason why I bought an Indian after I wrecked my Fat Boy a few months ago.
Levatich called Trump supporters a "crazy parade" during the last election.
Fk Levatich and Fk Harley.
Not buying a (IMHO) superior product over your dislike of the CEO is just hilariously silly. I think you'll be very very narrow in what you will purchase if you apply that everywhere.
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From: Oklahoma
Indian is not getting any blow back from the Riders or from Trump for several reasons.
One, the Poland plant has been in operation for years building their powersports line for the overseas market. Two, Indian is not laying off American workers to open the plant and move the line overseas. They are actually expanding the Spirit Lake facility to handle increased demand and to expand the lines for the FTR 750 and FTR 1200 coming out in the next few months. So they are likely to add workers. Three, Indian is still small at 25K bikes per year. Possibly 30-35K next year so they aren't as much a household name to make an example out of. Four, they didn't sit down in closed doors sessions with Trump and not reveal their future plans. HD did that. I'm sure that pissed Trump off. And five, same as HD they are bikes for the overseas market only. Frame and engines will still be made here and shipped overseas for assembly. I believe Harley is doing the same thing in that regard.
One, the Poland plant has been in operation for years building their powersports line for the overseas market. Two, Indian is not laying off American workers to open the plant and move the line overseas. They are actually expanding the Spirit Lake facility to handle increased demand and to expand the lines for the FTR 750 and FTR 1200 coming out in the next few months. So they are likely to add workers. Three, Indian is still small at 25K bikes per year. Possibly 30-35K next year so they aren't as much a household name to make an example out of. Four, they didn't sit down in closed doors sessions with Trump and not reveal their future plans. HD did that. I'm sure that pissed Trump off. And five, same as HD they are bikes for the overseas market only. Frame and engines will still be made here and shipped overseas for assembly. I believe Harley is doing the same thing in that regard.
And Indian has very few full time employees as they use a temporary hiring agency to get their workers. During the slow months they lay them off.
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Harley Davidson's overall quality is middle of the road on a good day....
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20,000 absolutely 100% trouble-free miles on my 2016. I've never owned a metric that made it 20,000 miles with no troubles.