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Old Sep 9, 2018 | 12:24 PM
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hi. This may be covered in another thread, but I couldn’t find it. I currently have an Upgraded HD air flow cleaner that fits u see 100 year anniversary cover. ( which I kind of like). If I went to a cone design, ( either SE, Arlene Ness etc), would I gain a significant difference in anything? Not sure if they’d wake up my slip ons at all for example? Thank you.
 
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No performance gain. Open is open
 
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hi. This may be covered in another thread, but I couldn’t find it. I currently have an Upgraded HD air flow cleaner that fits u see 100 year anniversary cover. ( which I kind of like). If I went to a cone design, ( either SE, Arlene Ness etc), would I gain a significant difference in anything? Not sure if they’d wake up my slip ons at all for example? Thank you.
Not all air cleaners are the same. Some make little difference, others can make a significant improvement. Here's a report LINK that has a basic explanation of the differences between A/C's. Here's another report LINK that gets into more detail regarding performance, tune stability and engine longevity.


Here's a report LINK that shows the differences in power made when using different shape Performance Air Cleaners.

 
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Not all air cleaners are the same. Some make little difference, others can make a significant improvement. Here's a report LINK that has a basic explanation of the differences between A/C's. Here's another report LINK that gets into more detail regarding performance, tune stability and engine longevity.

Here's a report LINK that shows the differences in power made when using different shape Performance Air Cleaners.
First, he has an 88, not an M8.

Second, you are comparing a stock AC with an HD tune, to an open AC with a PV tune. So you are changing more than one variable and still not getting much of a difference. He already has an open AC, so any difference would be even less and probably close to zero.

I stand by my original statement. I might add to it by saying no *perceptible* difference. Open is open.
 

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First, he has an 88, not an M8.

Second, you are comparing a stock AC with an HD tune, to an open AC with a PV tune. So you are changing more than one variable and still not getting much of a difference. He already has an open AC, so any difference would be even less and probably close to zero.

I stand by my original statement. I might add to it by saying no *perceptible* difference. Open is open.
We'll have to agree to disagree,

Running hundreds of controlled dyno pulls we regularly see differences between air cleaners. We also do pulls with NO air cleaner, can't get more open than that. Without fail, running no air cleaner (as open as you can get) will always produce LESS power than with a good, or even mediocre, performance air cleaner. This is because HOW the air flows after it gets past the filter can make (or not make, depending on the A/C) a measurable, perceptible difference in power.

Just one example is in the 2nd and 3rd dyno charts at this LINK- the 636v (cone shape that the OP was asking about) creates over 5% more power than the 606 A/C. Both are free flowing performance air cleaners with an EBS, the only difference is how the air flows After it goes thru the filter element.

The last two charts in the same link demonstrate the same thing. It is irrelevant if it is a M8, 88, 86, 103, etc.
 
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