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Think air mattress and a small 12v pump, wifey will be much happier trust me and love life the first rain storm comes along. Did the the thermarest pads a couple seasons dumped them.
Originally Posted by Bubba Zanetti
This right here. A queen size air mattress will compress down and fit easily in a saddle bag and the air pump is even smaller. There is no comparison as far as comfort goes. You can "make do" with a sleeping pad. You'll sleep comfortably on an air mattress. And a queen size air mattress fits perfectly in most 2 man tents.
Originally Posted by Uncle Larry
We've got a queen sized heavy duty air mattress which is quite comfy ... an air pump and voila ... the air provides some insulation form the cold ground too ... it's great if you have a trailer to pack everything "she needs" :>)
Air mattress is definitely one of the most comfortable ways to go. They're not light, but can pack reasonably compact, and the battery pumps aren't that big. HOWEVER, you will get cold sleeping on an air mattress without an insulating layer on top of it. Air mattresses will sink the heat right out of your body, and convection air currents inside the mattress just allow the heat to keep sinking.
I use a lightweight camping pad on top of the mattress. You only need a thin one, closed-cell foam, about 1/4-inch thick, or Ridge-Rest, or Z-Rest, or something similar. These will insulate you, while the air mattress keeps you cushioned.
I have one of those very thin sleeping pads (I forget who makes them) with a valve on it. You open the valve to let it "inflate" for an hour or so,
then close the valve. You then sleep on it that way.
When you're done, open the valve, roll it up tightly, then close the valve to keep the air out. It rolls up pretty dang small.
I personally find it comfortable enough to sleep on. It is pretty close to feeling like a regular firm mattress. Really pretty decent.
It's a good compromise between the space it takes up and comfort (they tend to be mutually exclusive).
I slept on it for a week at a time, two different trips to Sturgis. Worked great for me.
I have one of those very thin sleeping pads (I forget who makes them) with a valve on it. You open the valve to let it "inflate" for an hour or so,
then close the valve. You then sleep on it that way.
When you're done, open the valve, roll it up tightly, then close the valve to keep the air out. It rolls up pretty dang small.
I personally find it comfortable enough to sleep on. It is pretty close to feeling like a regular firm mattress. Really pretty decent.
It's a good compromise between the space it takes up and comfort (they tend to be mutually exclusive).
I slept on it for a week at a time, two different trips to Sturgis. Worked great for me.
Therm-a-Rest, made by Cascade Designs. They also make Ridge-Rest and Z-Rest, lightweight foam pads.
Therm-a-Rest is an air mattress, but because it has the foam inside, it also acts as insulation. The foam keeps air from circulating inside the mattress, thus preventing the heat sink from your body.
They are some of the most comfortable for lightweight sleeping pads. There is also an extra thick model of Therm-a-Rest, giving you even more cushion. But, everything adds weight, and they still won't be as comfortable a full air mattress. Like you said space/weight and comfort are mutually exclusive.
Therm-a-Rest, made by Cascade Designs. They also make Ridge-Rest and Z-Rest, lightweight foam pads.
Therm-a-Rest is an air mattress, but because it has the foam inside, it also acts as insulation. The foam keeps air from circulating inside the mattress, thus preventing the heat sink from your body.
They are some of the most comfortable for lightweight sleeping pads. There is also an extra thick model of Therm-a-Rest, giving you even more cushion. But, everything adds weight, and they still won't be as comfortable a full air mattress. Like you said space/weight and comfort are mutually exclusive.
Hope this helps,
John
Agree with John here. I am an avid backpacker also and know a thing or two about air mattresses. If you are going to use one in colder weather, get something with an R-Value of at least 3 (5 if you plan on using in winter). For light and compact, the top of the line is the NeoAir Xlite or the NeoAir Xterm for winter. They are pricey but lifetime guarantee which the company stands by. You can't go wrong with them. Get the large size if you want large.
An air mattress is likely the best option - just ensure it empties easily! .Camped to/from Daytona using air mattress.
Depending on the size of your tent you might consider one-person cots. Did a road trip in my truck to Flin Flon last year and used them. Modern designs fold up to an incredibly small package - they're comfortable but some thought needs to be given to pitching your tent re: flat ground.
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