Alarming HD trend....
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I guess I've always been a niche kind of guy. My current ride is Springer Softail (FXSTS), the one before was a Buell X1 Lightning, and before that a Dyna WG. Funny how the lowest selling models are usually my favorite ... I like to be different I guess!
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I'm not worried about it too much at this point....the market is so flooded with hardly used bikes, you can find dang near anything you want, already blinged out for two or three thousand less than new price. That makes it a buyers market really.
Friend of mine just bought a new Dyna Wide Glide with only 1700 miles on it for 16k. The person who traded it must have just bought bling all the time and never rode much. The bike had custom grips, switchblade forwards, aftermarket tach, luggage rack, touring seat, mini apes, chrome controls housings, axle covers, chrome LED gas caps, headlight visor...and a whole bunch more I can't think of right now. Now that's a pretty good deal for 16K for a bike without a scratch!
Friend of mine just bought a new Dyna Wide Glide with only 1700 miles on it for 16k. The person who traded it must have just bought bling all the time and never rode much. The bike had custom grips, switchblade forwards, aftermarket tach, luggage rack, touring seat, mini apes, chrome controls housings, axle covers, chrome LED gas caps, headlight visor...and a whole bunch more I can't think of right now. Now that's a pretty good deal for 16K for a bike without a scratch!
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ORIGINAL: madden23
OK maybe this is off point, but I think Harley is manufacturing now for planned obsolesence, they make a higher margin on parts,reduce the product line, more parts to sell to separate bikes, more profit, they gang up parts so they cannot be be repaired on a cost effective basis, oops, you have to replace a whole assemblies to get a $2.oo part. Not just Harley but a lot of manufacturers build this way they design in a certain timespan before their product will wear out, sorry it will cost more to fix it than it's worth, might be better just to buy a new one, that way the factory keeps churning out product. Gone are the days you might actually fix a toaster, lawnmoweror a DVD player or whatever,buy a new one when it's broke, it's cheaper. Does anybody else but me see a major problem with this short sided business plan(on a personal and planetary level), we live in a era of diminishing resources and we fill our landfills with junk, because so much of what we buy is designed to be disposable. Gone are the "warhorses" that can be repaired indefinetly, a flat head 45 cubic inch from the forties could be repaired easily for decades and be cost effective in repair, Just wait til your 2007 bites it in 2010, cheaper to buy a new one, and that's what they are counting on.The whole thing makes me sick, and now China is upping the ante and dumping even more more rapidly disposal crap on the world, all based on price, the world is going insane, OK done now.
OK maybe this is off point, but I think Harley is manufacturing now for planned obsolesence, they make a higher margin on parts,reduce the product line, more parts to sell to separate bikes, more profit, they gang up parts so they cannot be be repaired on a cost effective basis, oops, you have to replace a whole assemblies to get a $2.oo part. Not just Harley but a lot of manufacturers build this way they design in a certain timespan before their product will wear out, sorry it will cost more to fix it than it's worth, might be better just to buy a new one, that way the factory keeps churning out product. Gone are the days you might actually fix a toaster, lawnmoweror a DVD player or whatever,buy a new one when it's broke, it's cheaper. Does anybody else but me see a major problem with this short sided business plan(on a personal and planetary level), we live in a era of diminishing resources and we fill our landfills with junk, because so much of what we buy is designed to be disposable. Gone are the "warhorses" that can be repaired indefinetly, a flat head 45 cubic inch from the forties could be repaired easily for decades and be cost effective in repair, Just wait til your 2007 bites it in 2010, cheaper to buy a new one, and that's what they are counting on.The whole thing makes me sick, and now China is upping the ante and dumping even more more rapidly disposal crap on the world, all based on price, the world is going insane, OK done now.
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RE: Alarming HD trend....
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Yer salesman only knows rumors, only the top people at the dealership go to the dealer meetings around the 16th to see what is new. Yer salesman can guess like everybody else. H-D is going to revamp all their bike, whatever that means. Radiators, mabe because of EPA and the heat. Gotta wait like everybody esle and see. Man its torture waiting huh. Will be like last year. Waiting till the new bikes come into the dealership to see what new colors are in, and what changes has been make. And all the magazines coming out telling you what changes were made, showing the bikes.
I've already spent thousnads on my 07 model to git it like I wanted it and I still ain't threw.
Yer salesman only knows rumors, only the top people at the dealership go to the dealer meetings around the 16th to see what is new. Yer salesman can guess like everybody else. H-D is going to revamp all their bike, whatever that means. Radiators, mabe because of EPA and the heat. Gotta wait like everybody esle and see. Man its torture waiting huh. Will be like last year. Waiting till the new bikes come into the dealership to see what new colors are in, and what changes has been make. And all the magazines coming out telling you what changes were made, showing the bikes.
I've already spent thousnads on my 07 model to git it like I wanted it and I still ain't threw.
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