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Road Master
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From: New York
I didn't think the MoCo allowed dealers to have a competing brand at the same location, or under the same roof.
I think it was Tucson that I saw a HD Dealership and a multi brand Japanese (Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, maybe even Kawasaki) dealership right next door owned by the same people.
I know when I lived in Australia one dealership in town had Honda, Suzuki, Husaberg, and Harley Davidson all under the same roof.
I think it was Tucson that I saw a HD Dealership and a multi brand Japanese (Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, maybe even Kawasaki) dealership right next door owned by the same people.
I know when I lived in Australia one dealership in town had Honda, Suzuki, Husaberg, and Harley Davidson all under the same roof.
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From: Virginia
I was thinking the same thing...not just competing brands but ANY brands....I always assumed that the dealer requirements set by the MoCo were pretty strict.....the dealer by me is now selling those Vanderhall car/bikes....IDK what you'd call them lol but I was surprised to see them there.
Maybe there has been a recent change to the dealership agreement.
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From: Virginia
So here are some clip from the Harley Dealer Ownership policy I could find on the web.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...-a-dealer.html
So it sounds like having a competing dealership is not a dis qualifier, but they don't really like it. Still not sure about having them under the same roof.
I could see things like the Vanderhall or Slingshot as not being a competing product.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...-a-dealer.html
So it sounds like having a competing dealership is not a dis qualifier, but they don't really like it. Still not sure about having them under the same roof.
I could see things like the Vanderhall or Slingshot as not being a competing product.
Harley-Davidson Program Participation
E. No person may be an Owner if such ownership creates a conflict of interest (e.g., owns/works for a competitor, supplier, or a
company in direct competition with HDMC or an affiliate, etc.) that has the potential of adversely affecting HDMC’s or the
dealership’s reputation, business, goodwill, or interests. HDMC will evaluate these situations on a case-by-case basis. (For clarity,
ownership in or of a powersports dealership shall not be deemed a conflict.)
P. The expectation of HDMC is that all Owners/Dealer Groups (at each owned dealership) will fully participate in Harley-Davidson-sponsored programs and those with our business partners, including:
• Financing & Insurance from HDFS for both Retail & Commercial products
• Products & Services including but not limited to the Dealer Management Systems (DMS) from HDDS
• Genuine Parts & Accessories, MotorClothesŽ, etc. from Harley-Davidson
Thus, HDMC will give strong preference to any Owner/Dealer Group proposing to acquire another dealership that actively participates in and fully supports any and all Harley-Davidson products, programs, and services. Conversely, any Owner/Dealer Group that does not support Harley-Davidson products, programs, and services and/or supports those of a competing supplier or product provider will not be considered favorably for future dealership purchases. HDMC has the right to deny any
E. No person may be an Owner if such ownership creates a conflict of interest (e.g., owns/works for a competitor, supplier, or a
company in direct competition with HDMC or an affiliate, etc.) that has the potential of adversely affecting HDMC’s or the
dealership’s reputation, business, goodwill, or interests. HDMC will evaluate these situations on a case-by-case basis. (For clarity,
ownership in or of a powersports dealership shall not be deemed a conflict.)
P. The expectation of HDMC is that all Owners/Dealer Groups (at each owned dealership) will fully participate in Harley-Davidson-sponsored programs and those with our business partners, including:
• Financing & Insurance from HDFS for both Retail & Commercial products
• Products & Services including but not limited to the Dealer Management Systems (DMS) from HDDS
• Genuine Parts & Accessories, MotorClothesŽ, etc. from Harley-Davidson
Thus, HDMC will give strong preference to any Owner/Dealer Group proposing to acquire another dealership that actively participates in and fully supports any and all Harley-Davidson products, programs, and services. Conversely, any Owner/Dealer Group that does not support Harley-Davidson products, programs, and services and/or supports those of a competing supplier or product provider will not be considered favorably for future dealership purchases. HDMC has the right to deny any
Road Master
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From: Living in a van down by the river
So here are some clip from the Harley Dealer Ownership policy I could find on the web.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...-a-dealer.html
So it sounds like having a competing dealership is not a dis qualifier, but they don't really like it. Still not sure about having them under the same roof.
I could see things like the Vanderhall or Slingshot as not being a competing product.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...-a-dealer.html
So it sounds like having a competing dealership is not a dis qualifier, but they don't really like it. Still not sure about having them under the same roof.
I could see things like the Vanderhall or Slingshot as not being a competing product.
Road Master
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 791
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From: New York
So here are some clip from the Harley Dealer Ownership policy I could find on the web.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...-a-dealer.html
So it sounds like having a competing dealership is not a dis qualifier, but they don't really like it. Still not sure about having them under the same roof.
I could see things like the Vanderhall or Slingshot as not being a competing product.
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...-a-dealer.html
So it sounds like having a competing dealership is not a dis qualifier, but they don't really like it. Still not sure about having them under the same roof.
I could see things like the Vanderhall or Slingshot as not being a competing product.
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From: On the Big Blue marble
Why is everyone surprised - because its HD? EVERY vehicle dealer of every type of vehicle sells multiple brands.
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Road Master
Joined: Apr 2017
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From: Wisconsin
There used to be an HD place in Orlando FL that sold both Harleys and Indians. I've rented both from that place. It was actually
kind of cool to be able to visually compare them side by side. That dealership isn't there anymore though.
kind of cool to be able to visually compare them side by side. That dealership isn't there anymore though.