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Old Dec 12, 2021 | 09:33 PM
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When I was laid up in the hospital, my truck battery drained dead, wouldn't even jump, it's 6 years old so I figured it's due to replace.
I put a charger on it to get it up enough for a tender and it took the charge. Been starting good for the past 2 weeks now that I'm back to work using it.
 
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When any battery gets very low it needs a fast charge or higher amp to get the "juices" flowing. A multiple amp charger is needed for that. Once the needle starts moving up charger can be switched to lower amp. Then down to lowest setting for a low slow charge. Your welcome.
“Juices”? “Needle”? This is the 21st century old man…

I’m just fooling with you. I’ll see what I get tomorrow morning. If it starts, I’ll let the stator dump 20 or so amps into it quick enough. That should get the juices flowing and the needle moving ;-)
 
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I purchased a $80.00 Schumacher digital charger. It crapped out within a year. I am now using a Harbor Freight "analog" ?charger. I have always had several cars, trucks ,motorcycles so I have always needed a charger. They just do not make them like they used to. All chinese crap.
 
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Originally Posted by OLD 96
I purchased a $80.00 Schumacher digital charger. It crapped out within a year. I am now using a Harbor Freight "analog" ?charger. I have always had several cars, trucks ,motorcycles so I have always needed a charger. They just do not make them like they used to. All chinese crap.
Agree with this for sure. But there are still some good brands. You just have to look for them. AGM batteries do have specific requirements that I don’t think the older tech chargers meet though. That’s the problem. They do use lead, and acid, but they’re not really “lead-acid” batteries…
 
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Old Dec 13, 2021 | 02:26 AM
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You need the right charger/maintainer.


 
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Old Dec 13, 2021 | 03:55 AM
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Some chargers like the optimate have a specific mode to get flat batteries going again.

I think for most motorcycle batteries 5 amps might be too high. I have seen other chargers that has a car and bike mode and the difference is to lower the charge amperage.

Yuasa only recommends 3 amps for their batteries - Motorcyle battery charging and discharging information guide (yuasa.co.uk)
 
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
Some chargers like the optimate have a specific mode to get flat batteries going again.

I think for most motorcycle batteries 5 amps might be too high. I have seen other chargers that has a car and bike mode and the difference is to lower the charge amperage.

Yuasa only recommends 3 amps for their batteries - Motorcyle battery charging and discharging information guide (yuasa.co.uk)
5 amps is the max, read the text.
 
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The text from Yuasa states 3 Amps, "When charging a motorcycle or other small battery, the battery charger should not exceed 3 amps."

Yes the Optimate can charge at 5 amps. I didn't dispute that I just used the information from Yuasa to state that might be too high. It also states it has Ampmatic control to reduce charging current for small batteries which I have just noticed.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2021 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy from Sandy
The text from Yuasa states 3 Amps, "When charging a motorcycle or other small battery, the battery charger should not exceed 3 amps."

Yes the Optimate can charge at 5 amps. I didn't dispute that I just used the information from Yuasa to state that might be too high. It also states it has Ampmatic control to reduce charging current for small batteries which I have just noticed.
That may have been the case when Yuasa's top of the line motorcycle battery was rated at 30 Ah, they've since upped their game to 32 Ah. It's not much, but a 3.2 amp charge rate certainly exceeds the outdated 3 amp max limit from the past. This is what Yuasa has always reccomended.

Seems to coincide with the charge rate displayed on their latest and greatest.

 

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If you can get the battery recharged, I don't think you are going to experience problems on the front end - it's the back-end where problems will develop. Expect increasing hesitation when kicking over the bike and a shortened life span. The threshold for an AGM is about 50% of "state of charge". That's one of the bonuses for Lithium batteries - they can be discharged almost to 0 state of charge without shortening their useful life.
 
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