View Poll Results: Is Harley Davidson overpriced and overrated garbage?
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Harley Davidson Criminals
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Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 4,027
Likes: 6,286
From: SoCal
You needed to include a No option.
BTW, if your credit is poor enough that the only loan you qualify for has an interest rate that exceeds 20%, thats on you, not the lender.
Pay your bills and be an adult.
Take your whining elsewhere.
BTW, if your credit is poor enough that the only loan you qualify for has an interest rate that exceeds 20%, thats on you, not the lender.
Pay your bills and be an adult.
Take your whining elsewhere.
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 3,482
Likes: 631
From: NorCal Rocklin
But you read it and signed it right?
I mean you acknowledged that you were going to agree on the terms of the contract. You realize you can still step away when you are at the finance office? But you didn't so you are here venting your poor financial mistake. So you are the guy that salesmen keep talking out. I thought they were kidding.
Hope this is a lesson to those. Dont be like this guy.
I mean you acknowledged that you were going to agree on the terms of the contract. You realize you can still step away when you are at the finance office? But you didn't so you are here venting your poor financial mistake. So you are the guy that salesmen keep talking out. I thought they were kidding.
Hope this is a lesson to those. Dont be like this guy.
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 13,462
Likes: 34,517
From: Pine Flat Dam/South Bay Area, CA
I have been taken advantage of by Harley Davidson, Eaglemark HDFS, and Fargo HD. Those f'n ahoes gave me a loan at 24% interest. If a credit rating is bad enough to warrant any rate over 10%, the loan should not be allowed, that shows the borrower does not understand the loan, the value of the items, and the contract. I paid that unethical criminal enterprise $26,800 for a motorcycle with an exceptionally overpriced MSRP of $21,000. They made at least $10k in profit already. I tried for 2 years to get them to renegotiate but they enjoy harming their customers for profit. I refused to pay any more and requested a court arbitration as allowed by the contract, with no response from them. Now I had to destroy my bike so that those criminals can't repossess it, and I have to file bankruptcy.
FU Harley Davidson.
FU Harley Davidson.
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 28,842
Likes: 16,580
From: Wisconsin, USA
You make it sound like youre some special-needs person that was taken advantage of by unethical sales people. But you made this post in 2018, you sound like a pretty intelligent person. Suck it up.
OK, I have been involved in many legal disputes and a few racing organizations. Albeit, I am not a lawyer, but I have experience with very high performance (clearly outside of OEM specs) vehicles and warranty claims due to failure.
For example, If there is a catastrophic (complete destruction) engine failure due to a piston, a crankshaft, or some other aftermarket part, the warranty of that part only covers that part, and only if you can prove a manufacturing defect.
But, there have been many situations where one part causes total failure, so does your $100,000 race engine get replaced, or just that part? There are many ways to determine exactly what caused the failure, and if the part in question is clearly at fault, typically the manufacturer will settle out of court paying a substantial part of the loss.
So, regardless of what you do to your vehicle, despite the apparent laws (which can be easily and intentionally misinterpreted), despite any possible violation of law: if the oil pump fails, a seal goes out, transmission gear breaks, cam flattens out, or any issue not related to detonation because detonation is the only issue that can arise from pipes, mufflers, and tuners The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act does protect you especially since Harley Davidson manufactured all of the parts.
The only problem is having the Lawyer Fees (usually around $5000) untill the suit is settled, but usually just filing the lawsuit is enough for them to settle to avoid bad publicity.
Your best bet is to work out a deal with your local dealer, have them install your favorite pipes and the HD tuner, that way any detonation issues will be clearly on them.
For example, If there is a catastrophic (complete destruction) engine failure due to a piston, a crankshaft, or some other aftermarket part, the warranty of that part only covers that part, and only if you can prove a manufacturing defect.
But, there have been many situations where one part causes total failure, so does your $100,000 race engine get replaced, or just that part? There are many ways to determine exactly what caused the failure, and if the part in question is clearly at fault, typically the manufacturer will settle out of court paying a substantial part of the loss.
So, regardless of what you do to your vehicle, despite the apparent laws (which can be easily and intentionally misinterpreted), despite any possible violation of law: if the oil pump fails, a seal goes out, transmission gear breaks, cam flattens out, or any issue not related to detonation because detonation is the only issue that can arise from pipes, mufflers, and tuners The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act does protect you especially since Harley Davidson manufactured all of the parts.
The only problem is having the Lawyer Fees (usually around $5000) untill the suit is settled, but usually just filing the lawsuit is enough for them to settle to avoid bad publicity.
Your best bet is to work out a deal with your local dealer, have them install your favorite pipes and the HD tuner, that way any detonation issues will be clearly on them.
Club Member
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 5,801
Likes: 3,800
From: Cape Cod
Another VICTIM........damn sick and tired of seeing pussies whine about **** on the internet crying about **** that is THEIR FAULT!!
Crawl back in your hole!
AND you need a NO in the poll.........giving us a maybe or yes as the only options shows how stupid this is!
Crawl back in your hole!
AND you need a NO in the poll.........giving us a maybe or yes as the only options shows how stupid this is!
Last edited by MURPHCC1; Jul 19, 2023 at 04:42 PM.
Cruiser
Joined: Nov 2021
Posts: 234
Likes: 221
From: NE USA
I'll just leave this here, as a sort of mirror for the OP (from his YouTube channel).
Last edited by DMFXR; Jul 19, 2023 at 04:55 PM.
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